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Old 12-25-2011, 06:46 PM
 
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Hello everyone and Merry Christmas!

I have recently come across an old rifle that my grandfather owned. There is very little identification on the rifle that would help me identify it other than some very worn stamps on both sides of the barrels. There is also a stamp on the right hand side of the rifle right about the mechanism that opens up the gun to put the ammunition in it.

The rifle is a side by side with two different calibers. One of the calibers, I believe, is a .22. The other caliber is unbeknownst to me. The weapon features the classic double trigger to fire fire each respective round.

The stamps on the side of the barrels and near the lever are pretty worn and hard to read. From what I can see from using a magnifying glass, I believe that the stamp says "B (image) U". The image resembles a pentagon within a pentagon and a short cross coming from the top of the pentagon. On the side of the rife on the barrels, there is the same, "B (image) U" stamp but there is also, "9 3/3" stamp below the, "B (image) U" stamp. I'm sorry if I'm being vague or describing this wrong but I'm trying the best. Here is what the stamp looks like (they're so small and worn that taking a picture isn't yielding any positive results);





The 9 3/3 is only on the barrels.

Here are two pictures of the gun in question;





Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 12-25-2011, 09:17 PM
 
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It would help if the pictures would be visible....
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Old 12-25-2011, 09:19 PM
 
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posting a pic would help
also serial number help alot too.
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Old 12-25-2011, 11:55 PM
 
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It would help if the pictures would be visible....
I did originally post pictures but they were rather large. I think that a mod, rightfully so, deleted them. I will update the pictures tomorrow when I am able.

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posting a pic would help
also serial number help alot too.
The gun doesn't have a serial number which makes me believe that it was made prior to 1968. At least that's what I have come to understand from doing my own research.
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Old 12-25-2011, 11:57 PM
 
Location: southern california
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u r no serial, seen lots of WWI weapons w serial numbers.
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:21 AM
 
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u r no serial, seen lots of WWI weapons w serial numbers.
I could very well be wrong about the serial number laws. I've looked over this weapon hundreds of times. I can say for 100% certainty that there is no serial number on this rifle.
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:27 AM
 
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Here is a drawing of the only engraving that I can locate on the rifle. Note that this appears 3 times on the gun; twice on each barrel on the outside part of them and once above the lever that opens up the chamber. Also not that the, "9 3/3" only appear on the barrels, not above the lever.



Also, if you need other angles of the gun to make a positive identification please let me know and I'll take them first thing tomorrow.
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Older German guns seldom show serial numbers or any identification of manufacturer when they are from a small maker. Your gun predates 1945, probably by fifty years. The proof marks are German. Some guns do show a proof date. I believe, however, that these numbers indicate the caliber and charge. Did you check to see if both barrels are rifled?

German Gun Collectors Association

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Old 12-26-2011, 05:55 AM
 
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Best thing is run it down to a gunsmith [or a good gun shop] and MAYBE they can answer your question.
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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I did originally post pictures but they were rather large. I think that a mod, rightfully so, deleted them. I will update the pictures tomorrow when I am able.



The gun doesn't have a serial number which makes me believe that it was made prior to 1968. At least that's what I have come to understand from doing my own research.
No, a MOD did NOT delete the pictures. Go ahead and post them large, the system will resize them. Did you move them in your photo program? If you did, you broke the link. But I never touched them.
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