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Originally Posted by Chango
I was at my local gun store the other day and it occurred to me that most of the "military style" guns they had on the racks were from companies that are either tiny bit-players or don't have a presence in the global defense industry. For the companies that do on the other hand, the pickings are slim and the prices tend to be rather on the high side.
Obviously the two markets are very different worlds with different needs/demands but is there really a tangible difference between an AR (or any "milstyle" gun) that was produced by a company with military contracts vs one that isn't?
Is the price difference just because people will pay more to have the same brand name on their rifles as the one on the guns of "operational operators operating in operations" or are civvy-only brands merely trying to cash in on the "look" with products that wouldn't pass muster in an actual military force?
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Mil spec isn't the end all be all.
It's a list of requirements from the .mil to be met in order to be considered for service.
Component metallurgy, barrel manufacturing and lining, rifle twist rate, coatings etc.
Don't let the name Colt sucker you in. I own 2 colts. There isn't anything they do better than any other AR on the market.
They only sell a name and their heritage the 6920s on the shelves have sloppy fitting uppers as well.
Sad you get a higher quality out of a carbine like the Ruger AR556 for a third to half the money.
I've been building them left and right.
Nothing like nickel boron coated bolt carrier groups.
Oil them up with mobil1 slap them in. Go let off 2000+ rounds and when you come home, wipe clean with a rag. Super slick too when compared to phosphate and nitride bcgs. Not porous like those coatings to trap carbon and debris. Some claim their BCGs stain. Yeah when dry they will. I run mine moist where it doesn't count as much, wet where it does.
QPQ coated cold hammer forged barrels with chrome lined chambers and bores.
Nitride/Melonite coated is great too.
Get a ballistics advantage BA Hanson barrel with a nickel boron barrel extension for a real treat. No machining grooves left on the feed ramps and slick too.
Get a WMD nickel boron lined upper
run a light weight nickel boron bolt lubed up. Smooth as a sewing machine. Clean up is a breeze.
I like cerakote over phosphate and traditional anodizing for external coatings.
I like 223 Wylde chambered and 1:8 twist rate the best as it stabilizes everything from 55-77gr at distance... 3 of my ARS have 1:8 twist rates the rest 1:9 good for 55-62gr. Or 1:7 good for 69-77gr.
MLOK rails for convenience of mounting things and for free floating the barrel.
I still like the polymer hand guards however if you shoot near the volume I do.... you have to let the rifle cool down. Otherwise... you will have melted hand guards.
I love old school carry handle uppers.
But you hand me something "mil spec" like a Colt or Bushmaster? I'll take any of the carbines and rifles I've built over poly hand guard upper anything.
Wait until you've played with a totally custom built AR.
Titanium bolt carrier.
JP captured buffer system.
Adjustable gas block.
Spikes R2 brake.
Geissele or hiperfire triggers.
Furniture from any of the aftermarket suppliers.
You'll never want to shoot a "mil spec" carbine/rifle again. You'll find a mil spec trigger to be gritty, heavy, with over travel.