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"But some of the GOP proposals to replace Obamacare would hit middle-class Americans right in the wallet, according to several health care experts, employer groups and even a few Republican lawmakers. At issue is the longstanding tax exclusion for employer-sponsored health insurance, more than $250 billion that Americans who receive insurance from their jobs don’t pay in federal income or payroll taxes annually"
“It’s a tax no matter what you call it, and it’s clearly on the people who ultimately pay the taxes, which is, in this case, employees,” he said. “Politically, it’s a real loser. Conceptually, it’s a really good idea.”
Well, it's part of a conservative philosophy that American's can't be trusted to receive good health care because they will just overuse it. I'm not sure how many people intentionally get diabetes or heart disease, or break their leg because they have great insurance maybe I just need to find a conservative who can explain that to me.
I'm hoping that there are enough sane Senators left that this would never pass.
If you read the article in your link it says cap on employer's plan above $30,000 a year. So there is a cap. It's the same as Cadillac tax on Obamacare.
If you read the article in your link it says cap on employer's plan above $30,000 a year. So there is a cap. It's the same as Cadillac tax on Obamacare.
No, actually what it says is this:
Price’s bill would limit the exclusion to $8,000 for individual policies and $20,000 for families.
Another GOP proposal, from Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch and North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr, proposes capping the exclusion at $12,000 for individuals and $30,000 for families. That plan hasn’t been reintroduced in the current Congress.
But why are you trying to make this sound like a good idea, doesn't it bother you that it will replace a tax on device manufacturers and people earning over 250k and dump it right in the laps of teachers, nurses, mechanics and firefighters?
"But some of the GOP proposals to replace Obamacare would hit middle-class Americans right in the wallet, according to several health care experts, employer groups and even a few Republican lawmakers. At issue is the longstanding tax exclusion for employer-sponsored health insurance, more than $250 billion that Americans who receive insurance from their jobs don’t pay in federal income or payroll taxes annually"
“It’s a tax no matter what you call it, and it’s clearly on the people who ultimately pay the taxes, which is, in this case, employees,” he said. “Politically, it’s a real loser. Conceptually, it’s a really good idea.”
I think if you read your link, it's the same as Obamacare's Cadillac tax. Many people from the left, yes it's hard to believe, want a single payer and want government to not give credit to employers plan. So which one is it that you are supporting. I don't hear anybody from the left complain about single payer or universal health care as long as somebody pays for it.
Price’s bill would limit the exclusion to $8,000 for individual policies and $20,000 for families.
Another GOP proposal, from Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch and North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr, proposes capping the exclusion at $12,000 for individuals and $30,000 for families. That plan hasn’t been reintroduced in the current Congress.
But why are you trying to make this sound like a good idea, doesn't it bother you that it will replace a tax on device manufacturers and people earning over 250k and dump it right in the laps of teachers, nurses, mechanics and firefighters?
The amount I've always read is $30,000 for family. My plan is a lot less than that.
I also though $250k under Hilary was also middle class, so why are we not removing tax for middle class people.
No different than Cadillac tax. Money for subsidies have to come from somewhere. The delay of Cadillac tax is part of what made Obamacare unsustainable.
Good that teachers firefighters etc help pay for Healthcare for others. Why should they be exempt from it? After all their unions gave lots of money to help Obama get elected and get Obamacare passed. If you believe in something that strongly, you should be able to put your money where your mouth is.
It will be a precursor towards single payer for them. Their great extraordinary benefits will be gone and they will have to pay a more realistic amount (via payroll taxes) for Healthcare coverage.
I think if you read your link, it's the same as Obamacare's Cadillac tax. Many people from the left, yes it's hard to believe, want a single payer and want government to not give credit to employers plan. So which one is it that you are supporting. I don't hear anybody from the left complain about single payer or universal health care as long as somebody pays for it.
Under single payer you don't have employer based health insurance, it's that simple. But single payer is not the goal here, the goal is to eviscerate employer provided health insurance and replace them with nothing.
No different than Cadillac tax. Money for subsidies have to come from somewhere. The delay of Cadillac tax is part of what made Obamacare unsustainable.
Good that teachers firefighters etc help pay for Healthcare for others. Why should they be exempt from it? After all their unions gave lots of money to help Obama get elected and get Obamacare passed. If you believe in something that strongly, you should be able to put your money where your mouth is.
It will be a precursor towards single payer for them. Their great extraordinary benefits will be gone and they will have to pay a more realistic amount (via payroll taxes) for Healthcare coverage.
So you think that only union members receive employer paid health insurance? 177.5 million workers in the US have employer paid health insurance. In the entire US there are only 14.8 million union members. Sometimes it's good to fact check pesky little things like that.
And it was not the delay of the Cadillac tax that damaged the ACA, it was the refusal of congress to fund 'risk corridors' that caused most of the rate hikes and exit of several insurers from the marketplace.
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