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Old 07-22-2018, 07:43 PM
 
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Lol...Dr Google has caused a FLOOD of patients to our ERs and is usually quite incorrect.

It's ok at best for forming a partial differential diagnosis.

I do like that people want to be more informed, but there are so many nuances, pertinent positives/negatives, and subtle signs/symptoms that folks don't get.
Your post is useless without detailed examples. Do you have any articles, studies, anything!?!
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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I was lucky and my clusters were manageable on the pain scale and for whatever reason only came back once. I found out through research that magic mushrooms are the best treatment, but they are illegal (something a doctor wouldn’t tell me.) so I grew some mushrooms for treatment if they come back. Most doctors don’t even know what they are unless I go to a specialist.
And you were so intent on treating yourself that you took the time to find a source, obtain them, and then actually GROW them? All in a span of time in which you didn't suffer another headache? Do you now 'take' them preventatively?
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I was lucky and my clusters were manageable on the pain scale and for whatever reason only came back once. I found out through research that magic mushrooms are the best treatment, but they are illegal (something a doctor wouldn’t tell me.) so I grew some mushrooms for treatment if they come back. Most doctors don’t even know what they are unless I go to a specialist.
lolol!

Yes, you won't find a doctor prescribing illegal hallucinogenics for headaches.
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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Online research depends very much on what is between the ears of the user.

That said, you can definitely find as good - sometimes better - basic and up-to-date info on certain things than your doctor can.

I have a great GP...BUT, other than blood tests he relies on me telling him what is wrong. In general, that is how it should be. He doesn't believe in treating stuff that is not symptomatic.

One surgeon told me that when he opens up anyone 45 years old or older, there are multiple things "wrong" inside - cysts, growths, etc.

If each of us went and got batteries of tests we would find all kinds of things wrong....the larger question is whether we should do anything about them.

My take is to check for the biggies - blood tests, colon checks (now better....no scope required), BP and the very basics...other than that, unless something actually changes, I am staying away. I'm 65 and go twice a year...one quickie and one physical, although that is a quickie also. I do some eye, skin and dental stuff as needed or even a checkup......

In other words, the insurance companies have been "winning" my game for my entire life. But someday they'll pay (or medicare will)....
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:08 PM
 
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And you were so intent on treating yourself that you took the time to find a source, obtain them, and then actually GROW them? All in a span of time in which you didn't suffer another headache? Do you now 'take' them preventatively?
Clusters can not come back for years! I now have some in storage for if/when they come back. Yes, I grew them.
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:09 PM
 
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lolol!

Yes, you won't find a doctor prescribing illegal hallucinogenics for headaches.
I know. That’s exactly what I said and was my point.
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I have two very good friends, actually 3, who think a lot like me and we "consult" one another when one of us gets stuck or thinks we should try this or that. They also rely on Dr. Google a great deal. We all have MD's. But work to help ourselves.

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Old 07-22-2018, 08:28 PM
 
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Web sites for medical issues are notoriously incorrect.

Use at your own peril.
So has every doctor I've had for the past 20 years. I used them at my peril and perilous it was
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:34 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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Lol...Dr Google has caused a FLOOD of patients to our ERs and is usually quite incorrect.

It's ok at best for forming a partial differential diagnosis.

I do like that people want to be more informed, but there are so many nuances, pertinent positives/negatives, and subtle signs/symptoms that folks don't get.
If doctors displayed more genuine interest in what is "wrong" with you, and spent more time diagnosing you, google wouldn't even be an issue.

But they don't on both counts, so google is a survival mechanism.

It's predictable that medical professionals would put lay people down for doing the common sense thing that they probably do in secret.
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:44 PM
 
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If doctors displayed more genuine interest in what is "wrong" with you, and spent more time diagnosing you, google wouldn't even be an issue.

But they don't on both counts, so google is a survival mechanism.

It's predictable that medical professionals would put lay people down for doing the common sense thing that they probably do in secret.
Let's face facts. Most doctors are trying to earn a living and pay off medical school debts. They are not doing what they do out of the goodness of their hearts and that has been true for many decades; but now we have the greed of the pharmaceutical and insurance companies confounding matters. Given these circumstances, I have determined that becoming at least somewhat knowledgeable in rudimentary physiology, biochemistry and general health is important to protect myself in this world of corporate medicine.

I will use google and the internet to become informed so that my concerns will not be bowled over by the medical establishment.
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