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I didn't read the article either and had the same question. That's why I didn't bother reading the article. I doubt in time it will prove to be 100% effective for severe covid.
There are very few subjects in the highest at-risk age group.
"The vaccine’s efficacy appeared to be slightly lower in people 65 and older, but during a presentation to the Food and Drug Administration’s advisory committee the company explained that the numbers could have been influenced by the fact there were few cases in that age group in the trial."
The above relates to Moderna and Pfizer. Astra-Zeneca reported lower rates of efficacy but vowed to come back after it changed the trial. There's also a window of 35 to 42 days, or 14 days after the booster shot, where infections are ignored because it takes that long to build up the antibodies.
Someone I know who is a nurse and cancer survivor got the vaccine this past Monday. Not sure which one but the next day she had a fever and felt flu like symptoms. I doubt I'll get the vaccine but if my doctor strongly recommends it or it becomes mandatory I might get it then.
I am NOT buying the effectiveness of these vaccines. As more people get vaccinated I expect the real efficacy rate to take a significant dip. It's important to know that these makers of the vaccines have spent BILLIONS on them and have many other big wigs who've invested millions and perhaps billions. Whether people want to hear it or not, whether people want to know the truth or not, these vaccines are simply about making bank. I'm not saying it won't help some people but this is all about money.
Being this is a health forum, I think people should remember that we have IMMUNE SYSTEMS and even if you're in poor health, you can reverse your health. If you're in normal health, you can bring yourself to become in extraordinary health. Granted, I understand some people are going to need advanced medicines and treatments. However, for those of us whom are in poor to normal health, just remember that you have immune systems that you can enhance. Take the vaccine if you wish but again don't forget you have immune systems.
What about all the money being to treat COVID-19? Lost wages? Lost business income?
You would rather spend dollars on that than pennies on vaccines?
Yes, thank goodness we have immune systems. Vaccines would not work without them.
Some COVID-19 victims are being killed by their own immune systems.
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The standards for what's effective have been set up to make sure the vaccines get approved.
Nobody wants to talk about the possibility that side effects from vaccines can have a long incubation period of 1 year or more.
He talks about the methodology of the studies here:
Video is too long. What does anti-vaxer RFK, Jr. claim now?
If it does not happen within six weeks after vaccination it is probably not due to the vaccine.
The original Astra-Zeneca vaccine reported a lower efficacy rate of 62 percent against symptomatic cases, but it reported that there were no severe cases or hospitalizations. I think the last part is the most important. It doesn't have the side effects of the other three vaccines.
Yes, thank goodness we have immune systems. Vaccines would not work without them.
Thank goodness immune systems work WITHOUT the vaccine for 99%.
People with weakened or immunocompromised immune systems are not even eligible for the vaccine at this point. They may never be eligible; that remains to be deterimined. In any case, they will have to wait longer to get it.
Thank goodness immune systems work WITHOUT the vaccine for 99%.
People with weakened or immunocompromised immune systems are not even eligible for the vaccine at this point. They may never be eligible; that remains to be deterimined. In any case, they will have to wait longer to get it.
One percent is a lot of people, and there is no way you can guarantee that your immune system will prevent you from being one of them.
Those who are immunocompromised are part of the reason that everyone with no contraindications should take the vaccine, in order to achieve herd immunity as soon as possible to protect them.
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