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Old 03-09-2021, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Alabama
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Vaccines have never cured anything. All introduced as the diseases were practically gone. Look, the same things happening again with supposed "Covid". Keep letting Big Pharma make decisions for you, control your life, and you'll continue to post responses like above.
Exactly. It's so easy to manipulate the data re: vaccine effectiveness (or lack thereof). It's been done before, and it's being done now.

This is a very informative interview - Start watching at around 17:20 for information specifically relating to data manipulation.


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Old 03-09-2021, 11:42 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Old 03-09-2021, 11:43 AM
 
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Right now it's a race between the vaccine's and the variants. To me it's a toss up if we out vaccinate the spread or end up with a 4th wave.
It doesn't matter if they can modify vaccines to catch up with variants. Because they still have to actually vaccinate people and that takes time. You are also going to have people who refuse to to vaccinated over and over and over for new variants unless you turn the country into a totalitarian police state.
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Old 03-09-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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It doesn't matter if they can modify vaccines to catch up with variants. Because they still have to actually vaccinate people and that takes time. You are also going to have people who refuse to to vaccinated over and over and over for new variants unless you turn the country into a totalitarian police state.
Not really. While true, it will reduce the rapid spread and the severity.

Just like with influenza, partial immunity can be quite effective against severe outcomes.
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Old 03-09-2021, 03:18 PM
 
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Not really. While true, it will reduce the rapid spread and the severity.

Just like with influenza, partial immunity can be quite effective against severe outcomes.
And over 30,000 people die from flu every year. Will we accept 100,000 dying from covid every year?
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Old 03-09-2021, 03:36 PM
 
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The CDC is bought and paid for by the same global financiers that run the rest of them. This was about much more than the American election. This was an intentional fundamental re-ordering of global systems. They even have a name for it, The Great Reset.

Thank you for the humor. Of course like these Q style conspiracies there is no proof of any of the above.
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Old 03-09-2021, 03:38 PM
 
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It doesn't matter if they can modify vaccines to catch up with variants. Because they still have to actually vaccinate people and that takes time. You are also going to have people who refuse to to vaccinated over and over and over for new variants unless you turn the country into a totalitarian police state.

Polls I have seen put the number at 60-70% who will get vaccinated in the US. Even less in the EU. Of course if a variant like the SA one catches fire here it won't really matter since the vaccines are 10 times less effective against it.
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Old 03-09-2021, 03:41 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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...if a variant like the SA one catches fire here it won't really matter since the vaccines are 10 times less effective against it.
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Old 03-09-2021, 04:01 PM
 
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And over 30,000 people die from flu every year. Will we accept 100,000 dying from covid every year?

More so than 100K a month. /shrug
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Old 03-09-2021, 04:19 PM
 
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A new lab study shows troubling signs that Pfizer's and Moderna's COVID-19 shots could be far less effective against the variant first found in South Africa

https://news.yahoo.com/pfizer-modern...174512012.html
  • Pfizer's and Moderna's shots were at least 10 times less effective against variant in a new study.
  • Researchers tested the vaccines on a variant first found in South Africa, which is now in 20 states.
  • A mutation on the variant called E484K appeared to be a "major contributor," the study authors said.
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The percentage of protective antibodies that neutralized the variant - called B.1.351, which has been recorded in 20 US states - was 12.4 times lower for Moderna's COVID-19 shot than against the original coronavirus, and 10.3 times lower for Pfizer's, the study authors said.
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