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Old 03-03-2024, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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"A report said the 89-year-old had been taking vitamin supplements for at least the nine months preceding his death. Before his death, a test showed his vitamin D levels at 380, the maximum level recordable by the laboratory. It found Mr Mitchener died of vitamin D toxicity, hypercalcaemia, and cardiac and kidney failure. The conclusion of the inquest was death by misadventure... NHS guidance states that taking too many vitamin D supplements over a long period of time can cause hypercalcaemia, where too much calcium builds up in the body. It said this can damage the kidneys and the heart"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-68436576

Very unfortunate. Just because some is good, doesn't mean that more is better. My primary care physician is big on megadoses of vitamins. I take the suggested vitamins, but ignore his dosing advice, to be honest.

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Old 03-03-2024, 06:57 PM
 
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To be fair, the quoted portion of that article didn't mention how much vit D he'd been supplementing over that period of time. We have no idea how unreasonable it was or what he was attempting to achieve. For all we know he was extraordinarily prone to retain vit D even taken at some reasonable level.

I take some supplemental vit D for 3 reasons: because my typical values tend to be low, I live in AK where many residents don't receive enough exposure to full sunlight, and because it is beneficial for managing heart arrhythmias, one of which I have. IMHO, that is a reasonable choice informed by labs and a known health concern.
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Old 03-04-2024, 07:07 AM
 
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thanks blocked, so typing it to outdoorlover. thanks for bringing this to the forum.

89? sounds like i need to megadose vit d to live many years more than the average man. jk..

perhaps the author should seek out a younger subject to spread it's message
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Old 03-04-2024, 11:00 AM
 
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"A report said the 89-year-old had been taking vitamin supplements for at least the nine months preceding his death. Before his death, a test showed his vitamin D levels at 380, the maximum level recordable by the laboratory. It found Mr Mitchener died of vitamin D toxicity, hypercalcaemia, and cardiac and kidney failure. The conclusion of the inquest was death by misadventure... NHS guidance states that taking too many vitamin D supplements over a long period of time can cause hypercalcaemia, where too much calcium builds up in the body. It said this can damage the kidneys and the heart"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-surrey-68436576

Very unfortunate. Just because some is good, doesn't mean that more is better. My primary care physician is big on megadoses of vitamins. I take the suggested vitamins, but ignore his dosing advice, to be honest.
Well, it seems he took way too much Vitamin D. I take 4,000 I.U. a day and I even have chronic kidney disease, stage 3. My nephrologist (kidney specialist) says it’s fine. Too much Vitamin D can definitely harm your kidneys though.
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Old 03-04-2024, 01:02 PM
 
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thanks blocked, so typing it to outdoorlover. thanks for bringing this to the forum.

89? sounds like i need to megadose vit d to live many years more than the average man. jk..

perhaps the author should seek out a younger subject to spread it's message



What a senseless thing to say. Vitamin D toxicity can occur at any age. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/stor...923-2016-04-30


According to doctors in AIIMS, the child was advised to consume the supplement for physical development. However, the overdose of the tablets for continuous 21 days shot up the supplement level in his body by 30 times above the normal level. Subsequently, there was heavy accumulation of calcium in the intestine which resulted into his death.
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Old 03-07-2024, 08:20 AM
 
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What a senseless thing to say. Vitamin D toxicity can occur at any age. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/stor...923-2016-04-30


According to doctors in AIIMS, the child was advised to consume the supplement for physical development. However, the overdose of the tablets for continuous 21 days shot up the supplement level in his body by 30 times above the normal level. Subsequently, there was heavy accumulation of calcium in the intestine which resulted into his death.
Calcium from the supplements are dangerous as it accumulates in blood and circulatory system -plugging it.
Calcium from food is used differently by the body and in correlation with other micronutrients helping its utilization by the body
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Old 03-07-2024, 08:36 AM
 
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This is why I like the word moderation. Too much of anything can hurt you or kill you. Too little of what you actually need likewise.

I have a limited diet ( ovo-lacto vegetarian ), so I take a number of vitamins and supplements. But whenever I change something, I also look for "effects" ... and so far there is only one supplement that worries me as I don't think it is intended for daily use, but if I don't take it there are unpleasant consequences. I have mentioned this to my doctor but she apparently knows nothing of supplements. If it is not on her checklist, then it is not a problem.

And while I respect most medical advice, it still pays to be sensible, as not all medical advice is applicable. How well we metabolize things can vary from person to person.

One of my kids was once being treated by a world-class specialist using a certain prescribed drug. Her symptoms were getting worse, so he increased the dosage when he should have decreased the dosage. The drug was accumulating and reached toxic levels and put her into a coma for three weeks and we were told she would never recover. She eventually did recover ( with significant brain damage ), no thanks to the specialist.

So the point has been made, we have to be careful of what and how much we put into our system.

Happy to say I am 76, healthy, and fit, and take no prescribed medications. And the same is true for my three kids, except they are still younger than I am.
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:41 PM
 
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Happy to say I am 76, healthy, and fit, and take no prescribed medications. And the same is true for my three kids, except they are still younger than I am.
Your kids will always be younger than you are! Kinda the way things work.
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:04 PM
 
Location: equator
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To be fair, the quoted portion of that article didn't mention how much vit D he'd been supplementing over that period of time. We have no idea how unreasonable it was or what he was attempting to achieve. For all we know he was extraordinarily prone to retain vit D even taken at some reasonable level.

I take some supplemental vit D for 3 reasons: because my typical values tend to be low, I live in AK where many residents don't receive enough exposure to full sunlight, and because it is beneficial for managing heart arrhythmias, one of which I have. IMHO, that is a reasonable choice informed by labs and a known health concern.
Vit D is the only supplement we take. I've prone to skin cancers and after a couple experiences, can't handle the sun anymore, so have to take the pill. We take the D3 with Vit K and sea-iodine that supposedly rounds it out.

Glad to hear it's good for the heart. Didn't know that.
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Old 03-10-2024, 09:15 AM
 
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Vitamin A and K2 allows the body to get to the vitamin D level it wants if taking too much

Life Extension sells a good vitamin D/K2 combo. Cod liver oil is a good way to get preform vitamin A and omega3s at same time. Rosita and Virgin are good brands, just need half a teaspoon

9 Steps to Perfect Health – #4: Supplement Wisely
"However, we also know that vitamin A and vitamin K2 protect against vitamin D toxicity, and vice versa...This is why it’s so important to supplement with all of the fat-soluble vitamins together."


From this Vitamin D chart, we see upper 40s is the natural level of vitamin D for an African tribe and outdoor workers
Notice the US/Canadian average is down at 26
https://www.grassrootshealth.net/doc...chart-in-ngml/


This vitamin D calendar shows us which months you can get vitamin D from the sun(best between 10AM and 2PM), northern U.S. gets none Nov-Feb
https://www.grassrootshealth.net/doc...hine-calendar/

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