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Old 03-30-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: UK
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Raw milk is the only milk that can be organic. If its pastuerized its not an organic food. I have a major problem with almonds which can be labeled raw and organic but are pastuerized.
Can i ask why you think pasturisation makes something not organic?
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:01 PM
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You can TOTALLY taste the difference between true organic vs large corporation farmed.
Taste wise..

Take an organic cucumber.. cut it.. .Eat it.
Now
Take a large farm cucumber... cut it... eat it...

MASSIVE DIFFERENCE.
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Old 03-30-2009, 12:02 PM
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Can i ask why you think pasturisation makes something not organic?
I was wondering the same thing.....*i'm confused*
[SIZE=4]pas⋅teur⋅ize[/SIZE]   /ˈpæstʃəˌraɪz, ˈpæstə-/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [pas-chuh-rahyz, pas-tuh-] Show IPA
–verb (used with object), -ized, -iz⋅ing. to expose (a food, as milk, cheese, yogurt, beer, or wine) to an elevated temperature for a period of time sufficient to destroy certain microorganisms, as those that can produce disease or cause spoilage or undesirable fermentation of food, without radically altering taste or quality.
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Back in New York
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Can i ask why you think pasturisation makes something not organic?

Heating is a form of processing. It kills enzymes, vitamins and nutrients. Foods that are pastuerized are dead foods.
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Old 03-30-2009, 01:56 PM
 
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Heating is a form of processing. It kills enzymes, vitamins and nutrients. Foods that are pastuerized are dead foods.
But that doesn't stop it being organic. Organic is the way that it is grown/bred not what happens to it afterwards. If you think that all cooked food stops being organic and there is no point.
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Old 03-30-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Back in New York
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But that doesn't stop it being organic. Organic is the way that it is grown/bred not what happens to it afterwards. If you think that all cooked food stops being organic and there is no point.
Food has to be raw to be considered organic as far as I am concerned. If it is treated using heat its no longer raw. Its a processed dead food. When referring to milk especially. Raw milk is a completely different (and better) product than whatever it is that is on supermarket shelves.
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Land of Free Johnson-Weld-2016
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Food has to be raw to be considered organic as far as I am concerned. If it is treated using heat its no longer raw. Its a processed dead food. When referring to milk especially. Raw milk is a completely different (and better) product than whatever it is that is on supermarket shelves.
I can see your point, but that's your opinion. I mean is cooked spinach inorganic? I'm reading Tess of the D'ubervilles now--which relates to this thread because Tess worked in a diary after she got knocked up and her illegitimate baby died--and your post made me think of the dairy business back then in England. The book describes how they milk the cows and then make butter and cheese etc.

Not much about fresh milk, though... I bet pasteurization is the major technology that made it possible for mass distribution of milk...without killing hundreds of people. I mean, would you REALLY drink milk from an unknown, nose-wiping, bottom-scratching person without boiling it? I hope you're milking your cowsies yourself if you drink raw milk.
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:53 PM
 
Location: down south
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Well, for one thing, people of most semi-developed nations rarely make a big deal out of what they eat in term of healthy vs not healthy. They rarely pay attention to if their food is organic or not or how much calorie their meal contain. Yet generally they're thinner and healthier. No, I don't think organic food in the US would make much of a difference. I've done my fair share of foreign travel, nowhere did I see the sheer ubiquity of extreme obesity despite the fact most of the locals are far less obsessed with eating healthy.There're major problems with this nation's agriculture/food industry, if you don't solve that problem, whatever label your grocery have won't make a difference.
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