White people in New Mexico

[Irishtom29]

Originally Posted by Manolón

On the other hand, Irish are not even considered foreigners in Spanish/French countries.
As the former Spanish embassador in Ireland said, Irish are Spanish without sun and without wine (well, they have Guiness).

The affinity the Irish and Spanish have for each other is well known and the Irish in America extend it to the Mexicans as well (I know many Irish-Mexican marriages here in Chicago including two first cousins married to Mexican-Americans).

The Spanish were the only nation that tried to help the Tyrone fight off Elizabeth and the English and I'm sure you know of the San Patricios who fought for Mexico in the Mexican-American War.

And that the Spanish officers who designed and built the fortifcations of San Juan Puerto Rico were O'Reilly and O'Daley.

[Nighteyes]

Originally Posted by Manolón

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Spanish settlers in New Mexico arrived directly from Spain (Western Europe) during the XVIIIth Century (reign of Charles III). It was a measure that emanated from Illustration.

Since modern-day New Mexico doesn't have a seacoast, and since air travel wasn't even invented until the mid-20th Century, they did not "arrive directly from Spain". They crossed from Spain to the New World by ship, typically landing in modern-day Mexico, and subsequently emigrating northward. Therefore, they "came from the South."

Originally Posted by Manolón

They still live happily around Taos. I read a feature about them in National Geographic. They all look very Spanish. They live away from the rest of communities.

Yes, I have seen and visited with them. There is also a large group of very Spanish-looking people in Greater Los Angeles. Their families have been here far longer than most Anglos...

BTW, my father-in-law's family came to the New World from Spain in the early 20th Century. If you've seen the movie Pan's Labyrinth, the man who played the Spanish commandant is a dead ringer for my father-in-law. One of the female actors was a dead-ringer for my wife's Aunt Mercedes. (But my father-in-law and aunt-in-law had much better senses of humor... )

[TigerLily24]

Originally Posted by Nighteyes

Since modern-day New Mexico doesn't have a seacoast, and since air travel wasn't even invented until the mid-20th Century, they did not "arrive directly from Spain". They crossed from Spain to the New World by ship, typically landing in modern-day Mexico, and subsequently emigrating northward. Therefore, they "came from the South."



Yes, I have seen and visited with them. There is also a large group of very Spanish-looking people in Greater Los Angeles. Their families have been here far longer than most Anglos...

BTW, my father-in-law's family came to the New World from Spain in the early 20th Century. If you've seen the movie Pan's Labyrinth, the man who played the Spanish commandant is a dead ringer for my father-in-law. One of the female actors was a dead-ringer for my wife's Aunt Mercedes. (But my father-in-law and aunt-in-law had much better senses of humor... )

Good account of the trip from south to north here:
New Mexico Genealogical Society

[CAVA1990]

New Mexico Office of the State Historian : Taos