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That's my point ... aside from a brief period in the early 90s the 90s as well as the 00s and the part of the 10s that is in the past has continued the materialism of the 80s.
I agree with you the pop culture of today still has a late nineties type of feeling to it, though. I just think the overall attitude of people is still basically stuck in the eighties.
I see what you were implying. Sorry I was thinking more cultural then economic.
The truth is the economic principles of the US usually last longer then a decade. Until the 1970s/early80s, the economic mentality of the US could be described as a holdover from the policies of FDR during the Great Depression.
I think some relics from the 80's such as "big hair", parachute pants, Hair metal bands, etc. are kind of lampooned today. And maybe they should be (although admittedly I'm a fan of the now-classic rock sound of that era).
In the 1980's the US military finally shook off the last vapors of the Vietnam experience, and it was OK to support the military again.
I think some relics from the 80's such as "big hair", parachute pants, Hair metal bands, etc. are kind of lampooned today. And maybe they should be (although admittedly I'm a fan of the now-classic rock sound of that era).
In the 1980's the US military finally shook off the last vapors of the Vietnam experience, and it was OK to support the military again.
Yes, I think the US became more conservative in the eighties. At least in certain respects, like with the military, capital punishment etc. In terms of gay rights and abortion it's become more left wing if you will compared to the 60s/70s probably.
I see almost nothing similar between now and the late 90's. The 90's had distinctive music, clothing styles, politics, and economic differences between now and then. Cell phones were not widespread back then. Not sure how you compare now to then.
IMO the country changed drastically with 911. The 80's and 90's were innocent times compared to post-911. I remember the biggest thing we had to worry about in the 90's was street gangs in inner cities, child kidnappings/molestations, and a few corny white kids in trench coats shooting up schools. Other than that, the world was a good place. The economy was roaring and war was an afterthought. World War 2 was the biggest war on our minds back then.
Since 911, the world suddenly became a scary place. Doom and gloom. The economy took a turn for the worst. Multiple wars since then. We live in a never ending state of heightened national security, x-ray detectors at airports, and we now live in a surveillance society where everything is monitored like the book 1984.
In terms of style, the 80's was big hair dews, lots of crazy pre-washed denim jeans, pastel color shirts, and guys wearing daisy duke shorts which were holdovers from the 60's and 70's. In the late 80's/early 90's, neon colors were en vogue. New Wave and then Glam rock were the most popular forms of music.
Beginning roughly in 1993, clothing changed radically. Guys started wearing baggy t-shirts and pants. Shorts suddenly became knee-length instead of daisy dukes and guys wore no belt with sagging pants. The grunge rock/alternative scene blew up around '93-'94 and it was popular for school kids to wear flannel shirts, cortoroy pants, Vans shoes, and skateboarding t-shirts. Guys would either grow their hair out long or shave their heads. Little in between. The Gangsta Rap scene blew up in the 90's too. As the latter 90's progressed, hair gel became popular for guys. The Dawson's Creek pretty boy conservative look became more prevalent as well in the '98-'00 years.
Starting around 2001 or so, baggy clothing went away for most. Fitted clothing became more prevalent and continues to this day. You rarely see guys wearing pants falling off their butts except in poorer neighborhoods. The music, well its not the same as the 90's at all. Gangsta Rap and Grunge/Alternative Rock are history. That ended by 2000. Music is now all pop-ish or electronic and you have to go underground to find other genres.
Oh yeah, without a doubt. That's been the case since at least 2006, possibly as early as 2004. Prior to that the baggy 90s look ruled.
I think that 80s fashion lasted from about 1981-1992 and 90s fashion from 1993-2003. The current fashion started in 04/05 and is basically a mix of 90s holdovers and 80s comebacks.
I would say the late 1970s were definitely more '80s-like' than the early 90s. I mean, we had grunge, R&B, eurodance and hip hop in 1991. And hair was toned down heavily. In the meantime, 1979 had big hair, synthpop and new wave...so...
I would say the late 1970s were definitely more '80s-like' than the early 90s. I mean, we had grunge, R&B, eurodance and hip hop in 1991. And hair was toned down heavily. In the meantime, 1979 had big hair, synthpop and new wave...so...
New Wave wasn't really big until 80-81 aside from a few bands. The fashion in 1991 was still very 80s for the most part although there was some more contemporary stuff slowing replacing it. Big hair was probably at its peak prevalence between 1983 and 1991. I'd say by 1994, 95 hairstyles for women were more or less the same as they were in the early 2000s but no earlier than that.
The Cure, REM, B-52s, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode etc were still pretty popular in the early 90s.
But yeah, as to the original topic, I think the economic mentality of the 80s lives on and some aspects of the culture. Today is like more greedy and shallow than the 80s ever were.
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