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All my life I thought that the Hebrew slaves were forced to build the pyramids, but I guess the pyramids were actually built lie 1,000 years before this. Now I am curious if they were ever actually enslaved by the Egyptians in the first place??
The pyramids were built by impressed Egyptian labor. We know all about these people because we have found their quarters. Genetically, they were 90% identical to Egyptians today. They were not quite slaves, but coerced labor. Apparently, they were very well fed.
From my limited understanding, there is very little historical evidence of an Exodus event. I am no expert.
There is NO historic evidence for the Exodus. If it happened, it would have been during the 19th dynasty, around the time of Seti I and/or Ramses II. 1290- 1213 BC. By then the pyramids were already ancient.
My understanding is that they worked under something akin to a feudal system. When it was not farming season, they had time to work on public works projects, such as pyramid building. Work crews or gangs were named, and they used "graffiti" to signify areas of the pyramid that they completed.
Most historians as well as pop culture dates the Exodus as having happened in the 19th dynasty under Rameses II. There is absolutely no evidence for that. Some Christian apologists try to date it much earlier than that, saying there is more evidence for an Exodus under Neferhotep I during the 13th dynasty. I have not been able to find any sources for that other than on right-wing American websites, which I am skeptical of. Maybe somebody with more knowledge can shed some light on that.
Either way, Hebrew slaves did not build the pyramids. If there was an Exodus it didn't occur under Rameses II or it was a much smaller event than portrayed in the Bible. Due to the fact that the Jewish people base their customs and traditions on this event, I have a difficult time believing it was completely fabricated, though it may have been.
Yes indeed it was not Hebrew slaves or Charleston Heston, their is even some dispute on it was even slaves at all, or just the general population as well as some skilled engineers (for those times). Ancient Egypt revolved all around the flood cycle of the Nile and because of that there would be much of the year that Egypt had surplus labor. Otherwise much of the work documentation - workers quarters as has been stated, records of work details and materials (food, etc.) used to feed these workers (or slaves), survives to this day.
The pyramids were built by impressed Egyptian labor. We know all about these people because we have found their quarters. Genetically, they were 90% identical to Egyptians today. They were not quite slaves, but coerced labor. Apparently, they were very well fed.
From my limited understanding, there is very little historical evidence of an Exodus event. I am no expert.
The pyramids were built over the course of 2000 years, by hundreds of thousands of people. Genetic testing was at best done on a few dozen, besides the scientists can only test the burials they found. These burials don't have graves spanning 2000 years, they represent a slice in time. So all they know is who worked on pyramids at that point. Anyway, it makes sense that the majority of workers were Egyptian, as the population of Egypt would be much more numerous than any one tribe.
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Most historians as well as pop culture dates the Exodus as having happened in the 19th dynasty under Rameses II. There is absolutely no evidence for that. Some Christian apologists try to date it much earlier than that, saying there is more evidence for an Exodus under Neferhotep I during the 13th dynasty. I have not been able to find any sources for that other than on right-wing American websites, which I am skeptical of. Maybe somebody with more knowledge can shed some light on that.
The history of Ancient Egypt is not as well known as you make it sound. E.g. there's still not much knowledge about the origins of the mysterious Sea People who caused so much grief to the Kingdom. They were undoubtedly far more significant from the Ancient Egyptian point of view than the Hebrews yet very little is known about them today.
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Originally Posted by bawac34618
Either way, Hebrew slaves did not build the pyramids. If there was an Exodus it didn't occur under Rameses II or it was a much smaller event than portrayed in the Bible. Due to the fact that the Jewish people base their customs and traditions on this event, I have a difficult time believing it was completely fabricated, though it may have been.
The Hebrews at the time were just one of many nomadic tribes, while there's absolutely no reason for them to make up the story about working on pyramids, obviously they were not the main builders of the pyramids. Likewise, the Exodus was a huge event in the history of that tribe, but hardly a significant event in the thousands of years of history of Ancient Egypt.
Anyone into the theory that there was a lost civilization 10,000-30,000 years before the Egyptians that built the pyramids and the egyptians simply found/uncovered them?
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