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Old 04-06-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWUaDMuMATM
Has anyone else seen this?
Someone involved with the CANDLES Holocaust Museum in Indiana posted this to FB the other day.

I knew that it was high, but the numbers for Russia (thanks in part to Stalin) and China (their own people and the Japanese) are horrifying.
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Vienna, Austria
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Anybody can't watch the video without tears:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gonvxBXAgNI
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Awfully labored and lengthy presentation of information, which if simply printed out, would take a minute or less to read. No offense to the OP, but the video is one minute of useful information and eleven minutes of mediocre graphics.
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Old 04-06-2016, 01:58 PM
 
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Anybody can't watch the video without tears:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gonvxBXAgNI
I went there in 2014 with this lady and I'll never forget it. That whole place is proof that evil exists.
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Old 04-06-2016, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Thanks for posting that video to give some perspective on the scale of WW2.

Sadly, most Americans have little concept of what the war was like and the cost paid to win it. They also lack knowledge of America's contribution, which although great, wasn't necessarily decisive. Something like 70% of Nazi casualties occurred on the Eastern Front. The Russians carried the brunt of the fighting in Europe.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Thornhill, Ontario
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Thanks for posting that video to give some perspective on the scale of WW2.

Sadly, most Americans have little concept of what the war was like and the cost paid to win it. They also lack knowledge of America's contribution, which although great, wasn't necessarily decisive. Something like 70% of Nazi casualties occurred on the Eastern Front. The Russians carried the brunt of the fighting in Europe.
What of the Pacific War? I'd say the Americans contributed decisively to that.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Sadly, most Americans have little concept of what the war was like and the cost paid to win it. They also lack knowledge of America's contribution, which although great, wasn't necessarily decisive. Something like 70% of Nazi casualties occurred on the Eastern Front. The Russians carried the brunt of the fighting in Europe.
The US put in 90 divisions of troops - between the ETO & PTO - a calculated gamble that this was sufficient force, & that we could train, equip, transport & deploy them in time. Proportionally (to the other countries involved), we could have put in a lot more troops. But we were short of cadre, troops, ships, arty, tanks, airplanes - nearly everything. Plus, we wound up supplying war material & food & clothing & uniforms, transport to UK, Free France, USSR. In material terms, our trade & contracts with the Allies were decisive - see

Freedom's forge : how American business built the arsenal of democracy that won World War II / Arthur Herman, 1956 - , c2012, Random House, 940.531 HERM


Summary
  • Assesses the pivotal role of American big business in building weapons and enabling industrial dominance for Allied forces in World War II, tracing the contributions of Danish immigrant William Knudsen and shipbuilding industrialist Henry Kaiser.
Length: xiv, 413 pages : index, photos, chapter notes, bibliography, graphs Total US munitions spending, Rate of increase in US munitions spending


V. good on war production/mobilization. Dispels Keynesian view of flip a switch to get wartime production, flip it again for peacetime. (Cf. the morass of WWI wartime production.)


for one.
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Old 04-06-2016, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Thanks for posting that video to give some perspective on the scale of WW2.

Sadly, most Americans have little concept of what the war was like and the cost paid to win it. They also lack knowledge of America's contribution, which although great, wasn't necessarily decisive. Something like 70% of Nazi casualties occurred on the Eastern Front. The Russians carried the brunt of the fighting in Europe.
Nor, for that matter, do most Russians, the vast majority of which were born well after 1945.

The fact that 45-year-old Yuri used to sit on the lap of grandpa Nikolai and listen to him tell stories of the Great Patriotic War - back before grandpa kicked off 20 years ago - doesn't give Yuri the Muscovite any real concept of war that the rest of us can't get from reading a veteran's memoirs.

And I don't know what's supposed to be sad about that. The fewer people who have firsthand experience with the horrors of war, the better.
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Old 04-06-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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What of the Pacific War? I'd say the Americans contributed decisively to that.
We were THE decisive factor in the Pacific.
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Old 04-06-2016, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The US put in 90 divisions of troops - between the ETO & PTO - a calculated gamble that this was sufficient force, & that we could train, equip, transport & deploy them in time. Proportionally (to the other countries involved), we could have put in a lot more troops. But we were short of cadre, troops, ships, arty, tanks, airplanes - nearly everything. Plus, we wound up supplying war material & food & clothing & uniforms, transport to UK, Free France, USSR. In material terms, our trade & contracts with the Allies were decisive - see

Freedom's forge : how American business built the arsenal of democracy that won World War II / Arthur Herman, 1956 - , c2012, Random House, 940.531 HERM


Summary
  • Assesses the pivotal role of American big business in building weapons and enabling industrial dominance for Allied forces in World War II, tracing the contributions of Danish immigrant William Knudsen and shipbuilding industrialist Henry Kaiser.
Length: xiv, 413 pages : index, photos, chapter notes, bibliography, graphs Total US munitions spending, Rate of increase in US munitions spending


V. good on war production/mobilization. Dispels Keynesian view of flip a switch to get wartime production, flip it again for peacetime. (Cf. the morass of WWI wartime production.)


for one.

No doubt we made a huge logistical difference.

But the video was about war deaths, and America's were pretty low in comparison to the other major combatants.
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