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Old 11-06-2017, 07:46 AM
 
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Maryland ...
huh? Maryland was a slave state but it never joined the confederacy.
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Old 11-06-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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Tennessee was a mixed bag for the Confederacy. Almost a fourth of the troops that came from Tennessee fought on the Union side. The Confederacy had to deploy troops in East Tennessee to suppress unionist activity such as burning bridges, cutting telegraph wires and so on.
North Alabama was much the same - strongly pro-union and anti slavery.


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Old 11-06-2017, 12:56 PM
 
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Florida didn't contribute much, but then not that many people were living there at the time.

Georgia was probably the most problematic state. It took states rights too far. The governor of Georgia would refuse to honor draft quotas, refuse to collect Confederate taxes, etc...
Georgia is a good call. I was going to mention Georgia and the disputes that the Governor had with the Richmond government and Davis. He was so radical states right that it was too much for even the Confederacy. In the end Georgia became a major fighting theater and did it's share. I suspect that if the Confederacy survived the war Georgia would have succeeded from the Confederacy.
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Old 11-06-2017, 07:13 PM
 
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huh? Maryland was a slave state but it never joined the confederacy.
A split state ...
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Old 11-06-2017, 08:17 PM
 
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Not sure what you mean, Maryland was never split. It stayed in the Union. The population was divided into Feds and sucesh sympathizers but so were may states. Are you thinking of Virginia/West Virginia?
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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huh? Maryland was a slave state but it never joined the confederacy.
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Not sure what you mean, Maryland was never split. It stayed in the Union. The population was divided into Feds and sucesh sympathizers but so were may states. Are you thinking of Virginia/West Virginia?
Maryland in the Civil War

"The eastern part of Maryland was clearly pro Confederate while the western part of the state was clearly pro Union. Few know the role that Maryland played in its support of the Confederacy because most history books barely touch on this subject and many think that Maryland was just another Union state."
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Least influential, (imo) because the representatives and its citizens had issues.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:47 AM
 
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Maryland in the Civil War

"The eastern part of Maryland was clearly pro Confederate while the western part of the state was clearly pro Union. Few know the role that Maryland played in its support of the Confederacy because most history books barely touch on this subject and many think that Maryland was just another Union state."
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Least influential, (imo) because the representatives and its citizens had issues.
Yes yes, we know this. But the topic is what state AMONG the states that were officially considered part of the confederacy were LEAST helpful. Many border states on both sides had mixed loyalties.
If we open that discussion to consider states that were officially part of the Union then we can say, for instance, Massachussets was least helpful to the Confederacy due to it's heavy anti-slavery stance.

Hey it's cool however - we can say perhaps that Maryland was least helpful to the UNION. Maybe that's what you meant?
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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Yes yes, we know this. But the topic is what state AMONG the states that were officially considered part of the confederacy were LEAST helpful. Many border states on both sides had mixed loyalties.
If we open that discussion to consider states that were officially part of the Union then we can say, for instance, Massachussets was least helpful to the Confederacy due to it's heavy anti-slavery stance.

Hey it's cool however - we can say perhaps that Maryland was least helpful to the UNION. Maybe that's what you meant?
My post is what it is, do with it what you want.
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Old 11-08-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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I would go for Arkansas.


They were largely occupied by the Union army early on, thus limiting their contributions (Arkansas CSA units that continued after Little Rock fell had good reputations though). The state also had a certain number of union sympathizers that led to a lot of guerilla on guerilla feud fighting in the Ozarks.
I'd think Louisiana with regard to a state that was occupied early on, or at least the principal city of it was. Florida probably gets the nod, though, just because of its sparse population and resources.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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North Alabama was much the same - strongly pro-union and anti slavery.
Being pro union politically did not automatically mean "anti slavery". This was espescially so with unionist regiments.

Union sympathies in northern Alabama, though noted, were relatively muted. The area did raise the 1st Alabama Cavalry (US) following the Union occupation.

Yet union Colonel Streight had planned on unionist locals to support him during his raid. He did get some cheers from pro union locals, but the same locals also hid their horses and refused to exchange mounts, much less serve as rear guards.

Local unionist also faced a geographic challenge. They lived on a low spur of the Appalachian mountains. As a result, they had pro CSA Alabama to the south, and pro CSA Memphis area and central TN to the north. Then factor in that the local CSA general (Nathaniel Bedford Forrest) had reputations as being a tactical genius, being extremely lethal in personal combat, and for having an "all or nothing" mentality.
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