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My mother, born in 1927, grew up in Chicago. After she married my dad in the 40's they traveled to Virginia where she saw her first examples of segregation. In her case she went to use a drinking fountain that was labeled "Coloreds" and my father had to explain to her what the sign meant. She had never heard of such a thing (and she was well educated) and couldn't believe it.
One has to distinguish between segregation and Jim Crow (such as seperate white/black facilities). The later consists of legal discrimination, the former of informal or personal behavior.
I thought there were a lot of catholics in Vermont. It has a functioning monastary which is rare in the US.
There are. The history of the first priest in Burlington is kinda interesting, but then the history of the whole state is interesting. The French Canadians came to Winooski to work in the textile mills, the Italians and Irish to build the railroads, the Italians being actually sought out in the Barre and Rutland/Proctor areas to sculpt the granite and marble used in monuments and gravestones. Long before all of that, after the French and British were driven north, the state was almost exclusively white protestants from Connecticut and Massachusetts. At that time there was more hatred of the New Yorkers and people from New Hampshire who were trying to assert claims on the land than any other races. If you had to stereotype Vermonters prior to the 1930s, pragmatic would probably be the closest definition of them. (Serious tourism spending started in the 1930s and changed the state forever.)
Segregation was alive and well in DC and Baltimore in the 50's and early 60's...at least it was on their local TV dance shows. Baltimore's WJZ-TV channel 13 was the home of the Buddy Deane show. Of course the segregation of this show was the basis of the movie/broadway show "Hairspray" however Hairspray had a happy ending unlike the Buddy Deane Show..rather than allowing blacks to dance on the show WJZ and/or Buddy Deane simply cancelled the program. Believe it or not there is still debate to this day as to whose call that really was. Was it Deane's? Or was it WJZ?
Washington's WTTG channel 5 had Milt Grant..no black dancers on that show either though Milt did allow black guest such as LaVerne Baker to appear on the program
also in DC there was "Teenarama Dance Party" (?) on then WOOK channel 14. Reverse segregation in this case as that show only allowed black dancers and not whites.
Even the whitest states have historical brushes into segregationist policy, albeit mostly in the distant past. Malaga Island come to mind in ME.
Malaga Island (http://www.bms.rsu1.org/red/malagawebsite/ - broken link)
I know VT only as recently as 20 years ago removed offensive place names like "N***** Hill from their maps.
I was about to dispute that first point, but then I remembered that at one point the army stationed a black regiment at Ft. Ethan Allen in Colchester, I forget when - somewhere between the 1900s to 1940s?. There never was a problem, but it was partly because the leader imposed a form of self-segregation.
The place names were not considered derogatory or intentionally offensive, but were more often descriptive in a crude way. As a very young kid, I remember being much more shocked when I learned what the Grand Tetons were named for. To me, it didn't matter if you were French, there was something rude about proclaiming that beautiful scenery "Huge T*ts Mountains."
I'm sure at sometime in the future, someone will take offense to Beaver Meadows, Gaysville, Indian Hill, Middlesex, and so on, and those will be re-named. Whatever.
Segregation was alive and well in DC and Baltimore in the 50's and early 60's...at least it was on their local TV dance shows. Baltimore's WJZ-TV channel 13 was the home of the Buddy Deane show. Of course the segregation of this show was the basis of the movie/broadway show "Hairspray" however Hairspray had a happy ending unlike the Buddy Deane Show..rather than allowing blacks to dance on the show WJZ and/or Buddy Deane simply cancelled the program. Believe it or not there is still debate to this day as to whose call that really was. Was it Deane's? Or was it WJZ?
Washington's WTTG channel 5 had Milt Grant..no black dancers on that show either though Milt did allow black guest such as LaVerne Baker to appear on the program
also in DC there was "Teenarama Dance Party" (?) on then WOOK channel 14. Reverse segregation in this case as that show only allowed black dancers and not whites.
I remember Teenarama Dance Party (?) as well while growing up in the DC area in the 1960's-70's. Baltimore also had it for a while on Ch 24.
I was about to dispute that first point, but then I remembered that at one point the army stationed a black regiment at Ft. Ethan Allen in Colchester, I forget when - somewhere between the 1900s to 1940s?. There never was a problem, but it was partly because the leader imposed a form of self-segregation.
The place names were not considered derogatory or intentionally offensive, but were more often descriptive in a crude way. As a very young kid, I remember being much more shocked when I learned what the Grand Tetons were named for. To me, it didn't matter if you were French, there was something rude about proclaiming that beautiful scenery "Huge T*ts Mountains."
I'm sure at sometime in the future, someone will take offense to Beaver Meadows, Gaysville, Indian Hill, Middlesex, and so on, and those will be re-named. Whatever.
Had to chuckle @ Grant Tetons there; I never realized that it actually referred to being buxom-----------and, I used to joke that a bevy of large chested women would be the 'Grand Tetons'.
Here in Arizona we still have places using the word 'Squaw'. Some American Indian women take offence to that word whereas others embrace it-------never mind there is the Navajo Squaw Dance.
No segregation in California that I was ever aware of. Although we did try to keep the Okies out during the depression.
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