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Green photo: The proposal in my mind before contractor came.
Initially, I disagreed with contractor's proposal, since I thought interior wall bears weight. He educated me that it is the black metal pole bears weight, not interior wall. Now I agree with his opinion.
But my question is: what is the most common basement layout? Whole basement as a unit (open space) suggested by contractor?
If it is your basement, what is your opinion? Movie room is NOT a must for me, so I am open to other suggestions.
What to do with water pipe stuff (drain pipe?) on the ground (in the green photo)? Should I cover it with vinyl flooring?
(1) Where is the black water pipe located?
(2) Where is the laundry sink located?
(3) Where is the furnace located?
(4) Where is the water heater located?
(5) Where are the main support beam and supporting posts located?
The plan would be to hide the appliances and such within a separate room and to hide the plumbing/ducting within the walls or bulkheads.
My guess is that your contractor drew the plan to meet the above parameters - I imagine that the jog in the wall may be more than just a TV niche (but I may be wrong).
As for a wall between your floor drain and your laundry - the issue is that a washing machine overflow or water line failure needs a path to the floor drain, and your proposed walls in the second and third designs blocks that.
(1) Where is the black water pipe located?
(2) Where is the laundry sink located?
(3) Where is the furnace located?
(4) Where is the water heater located?
(5) Where are the main support beam and supporting posts located?
The plan would be to hide the appliances and such within a separate room and to hide the plumbing/ducting within the walls or bulkheads.
My guess is that your contractor drew the plan to meet the above parameters - I imagine that the jog in the wall may be more than just a TV niche (but I may be wrong).
As for a wall between your floor drain and your laundry - the issue is that a washing machine overflow or water line failure needs a path to the floor drain, and your proposed walls in the second and third designs blocks that.
See the attached photo in this post.
1) I guess you mean black metal pole, not really water pipe. It is the pole support weight. Look at first post, there is a black metal cuboid laid on the black metal pole. I guess this also answer your question (5)
2） Right next to washer, look at the current layout photo.
3) & 4) See attached photo.
Now I decide to move dryer/washer/sink next to water heater, they all stay against the same wall, this is contractor's plan.
He is handy man, not actually from a company, he does not know professional drawing, just rough hand drawing on the paper (for 1-2 minutes) and give me the idea.
What should I do with floor drain? Does it have anything to do with sink? Contractor can get a longer pipe to connect sink to drain.
(1) Where is the black water pipe located?
(2) Where is the laundry sink located?
(3) Where is the furnace located?
(4) Where is the water heater located?
(5) Where are the main support beam and supporting posts located?
The plan would be to hide the appliances and such within a separate room and to hide the plumbing/ducting within the walls or bulkheads.
My guess is that your contractor drew the plan to meet the above parameters - I imagine that the jog in the wall may be more than just a TV niche (but I may be wrong).
As for a wall between your floor drain and your laundry - the issue is that a washing machine overflow or water line failure needs a path to the floor drain, and your proposed walls in the second and third designs blocks that.
When sink move to the wall, it can still access floor drain. Just replace the red section with a long pipe from sink's new location.
But overall, I am concerned more about main layout design: is it common to have open basement space? I mean if it is a good idea to remove interior wall? Thanks.
So if I understand correctly, the first diagram in the original post is how the basement currently exists right now, and the plan is to remove the interior walls down the middle of the room and shift the washer/dryer/sink over to the wall with the furnace and the water heater. It also appears that in the fourth picture of the OP we're looking at the main steel I-beam and a support post, and not a black water drain pipe like I originally thought.
Yes, the interior walls in the basement can be removed without damaging the house's structure (said the anonymous guy on the internet, who's expertise is watching TV shows about remodeling). Is the goal to make the basement one large 26x22 room, with a bump out of 13x6 for a combination utility/laundry room?
EDIT: OK, I get it, I think. Your handyman is suggesting moving the laundry from the far left corner of the basement to the side wall of the basement next to the furnace and water heater. You're the one OK with moving the laundry, but question whether such a large room is desirable.
When sink move to the wall, it can still access floor drain. Just replace the red section with a long pipe from sink's new location.
The floor drain is in the floor, the red section on the laundry sink is going to a wastewater pipe. Those are two different things.
And if your plan is to run a 20 foot pipe from the location of the new sink back to the existing wastewater pipe, my guess (as a not-plumber) is that there will at least be venting issues, if not building code violations.
Initially, I disagreed with contractor's proposal, since I thought interior wall bears weight. He educated me that it is the black metal pole bears weight, not interior wall. Now I agree with his opinion.
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Originally Posted by GlebeH
He is handy man, not actually from a company, he does not know professional drawing, just rough hand drawing on the paper (for 1-2 minutes) and give me the idea.
So this guy is a handy man and not actually a contractor?
So this guy is a handy man and not actually a contractor?
Well, he is experienced, but not well educated, not into computer stuff, not speaking good English, no license. But don't get me wrong, he is indeed experienced, a lot of my friends hired him because of quality work and quite reasonable price.
Regarding skill set, there is no difference between him and professional contractors. But he does not have professional license, hiring him will require home owner to apply for permit as DIY project.
The floor drain is in the floor, the red section on the laundry sink is going to a wastewater pipe. Those are two different things.
And if your plan is to run a 20 foot pipe from the location of the new sink back to the existing wastewater pipe, my guess (as a not-plumber) is that there will at least be venting issues, if not building code violations.
Not 20 feet, from the basement size (as photo shows), it is about 12 feet.
Well, he is experienced, but not well educated, not into computer stuff, not speaking good English, no license. But don't get me wrong, he is indeed experienced, a lot of my friends hired him because of quality work and quite reasonable price.
Regarding skill set, there is no difference between him and professional contractors. But he does not have professional license, hiring him will require home owner to apply for permit as DIY project.
OK, do what you want, but the fact that the handy man is saying that you could move the laundry sink 12 feet away from the drain stack and doesn't appear to be addressing the issue of proper drain venting tells me that he may capable of what he says, but you will probably end up with a laundry sink that doesn't drain properly.
I'm no plumber, but a quick google about how far away you can move a sink from a drain vent says that if the connecting sink to drain pipe is 2 inches in diameter, the farthest recommended distance is only 5 feet.
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