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Old 08-05-2015, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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By the book, a Massachusetts homeowner is required to hire a licensed plumber just to screw on a different shower head.


Oh please, please, quote that so we can all converse on the interpretation of code!
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Old 08-07-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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Oh please, please, quote that so we can all converse on the interpretation of code!
Yes it is true that only licensed plumbers are allowed to do anything with the plumbing system - even something as simple as changing a shower head. The rationale is that an improperly done plumbing job has the potential to backflow into the water system. Of course, plenty of folks just do their own plumbing without any issues.

Massachusetts also has a state plumbing board that requires every plumbing product installed in the state to meet their requirements. Those requirements are nothing more than approval by an approved testing agency that the products meet industry standards and an application to the state. Being in the industry, I have been on job sites where Mr. Inspector has told Mr. Plumber to rip out the shower system because the shower valve does not has a MA Product Listing.

Here is a list from the state that details what needs permits or licenses:

http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/dps/i...ng-hic-csl.doc
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Old 08-07-2015, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Yes it is true that only licensed plumbers are allowed to do anything with the plumbing system - even something as simple as changing a shower head.

Does anybody "read" any more?
Does a typical "shower head" cost over $500.00?

So; how's that interpretation now?
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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Does anybody "read" any more?
Does a typical "shower head" cost over $500.00?

So; how's that interpretation now?
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Massachusetts requires a licensed plumber for ANY plumbing work. Here it is from the state:

Plumbers and Gas Fitters Consumer Fact Sheet

Only a master or journeyman plumber examined and licensed by the Board of State Examiners of Plumbers and Gas Fitters, with the proper permits issued by the local plumbing inspector, can perform plumbing work at your home or business.

But we all know that most minor jobs are often done by the homeowner or another unlicensed individual.
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Old 08-07-2015, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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It also says...

for the sake of saving space


Massachusetts requires a licensed plumber for ANY plumbing work.

"Any"?
OK. So why does it also state this-
"A permit is not required for minor repairs such as fixing a leaky faucet, valve or other working part of a plumbing fixture, or for clearing a blocked drain."(?)

There's a difference between "plumbing" and "plumbing fixture".



But we all know that most minor jobs are often done by the homeowner...
So, you rant about a "permit is needed for everything", then cheapen the whole argument with that? Again, as I had previously stated interpretation can vary greatly. But, if you "read it" at face value it's clear that "replacing a shower head" DOES NOT REQUIRE a permit of any kind.

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