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Old 08-23-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Richmond VA
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A few years ago my daughter painted something artsy directly on her bedroom wall. Last week when I moved out of the house I tried to paint over it with Kilz. Turns out some of the paint she used was oil paint! All this time I was thinking it was acrylic craft paint. The kilz just smeared it around. She rubbed off what excess she could and we put a few coats of Kilz on it, but it is still a smeary mess and I'm not confident that any number of layers of primer or paint will ever work.

WWYD?

The only thought I've had is to get some paintable wallpaper to put over it, then paint on top of that.

Any other ideas would be appreciated. My tenant was NOT happy.
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:32 PM
 
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I would just replace the one or two sheets of drywall. The only problem is if the house is already rented, it is a mess for a couple days. Wallpaper is a patch, but is faster and cheap.
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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A few years ago my daughter painted something artsy directly on her bedroom wall. Last week when I moved out of the house I tried to paint over it with Kilz. Turns out some of the paint she used was oil paint! All this time I was thinking it was acrylic craft paint. The kilz just smeared it around. She rubbed off what excess she could and we put a few coats of Kilz on it, but it is still a smeary mess and I'm not confident that any number of layers of primer or paint will ever work.

WWYD?

The only thought I've had is to get some paintable wallpaper to put over it, then paint on top of that.

Any other ideas would be appreciated. My tenant was NOT happy.
Why would you have a tenant in place AFTER discovering any problem with paint? That makes no sense t me.

Go talk to your local paint salesman (and this doesn't normally include Home Depot, unless your local store is unusual), and figure out what you have to do.

But, I really don't understand why any new tenant is having an issue with this.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Wipe away as much as possible with cotton clothes/rags and lacquer thinner. Just don't saturate the wall. When the oil color(s) is gone let dry thoroughly, lightly sand, prime/seal, lightly sand, ready for paint.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:18 PM
 
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Which Kilz? They're not all the same.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:42 PM
 
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As K'ledgeBldr, but use oil-based primer.

Also if it's watercolor it's worse. That stuff comes through oil. B-I-N might block it.
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Old 08-24-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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We had something similar in our house. BIN primer. It's expensive, but worth every penny.
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Old 08-24-2018, 09:18 AM
 
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The reason I suggested replacing the sheetrock is a case of BTDT. When I was a very young child, my father took a notion to paint a 4' x 7' farm-life mural above the living room sofa - directly on the wall, using a wide molding for a frame. When he came to his senses a few years later and tried to paint over it, the impasto never did get fully removed and faint shadows of trees and cows remained.
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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The reason I suggested replacing the sheetrock is a case of BTDT. When I was a very young child, my father took a notion to paint a 4' x 7' farm-life mural above the living room sofa - directly on the wall, using a wide molding for a frame. When he came to his senses a few years later and tried to paint over it, the impasto never did get fully removed and faint shadows of trees and cows remained.
The percentage of pigments in true artist quality oil paint, and the weird super-slow drying base they use are totally different than any interior or exterior paint that you'd encounter in a house. The stuff will bleed through any kind of primer, even the stinkiest shellac based stuff, because it will basically prevent the primer from even fully "curing".

Cover with 1/4' drywall is the only truly permanent fix.
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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As a couple others have mentioned, you have to use the oil based Kilz. It is in the white can with red letters. The water based latex version of Kilz sucks and isn't worth wasting money on. Another excellent brand is Zinsser primer. They also have both water based and oil based. You need the oil based regardless of what brand you choose.

As always, the surface should be first prepped properly. All holes and rough spots should be filled, cracks between drywall and trim caulked and all surfaces sanded. Then the primer should be sanded and dusted off prior to painting. Painting in your home is 90% prep work and 10% actual painting. I go in some peoples houses and it is obvious they have painted right over walls and trim without properly prepping them first.....looks like crap.
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