Moving to Houston or Austin ??? (Dallas, San Antonio: appointed, transplants, real estate)

[adham]

Where would be the best place to get a job in marketing/Sales/Management ???

Is Austin only for High-tech ? Is it like Silicon valley where its crowded with engineers and all the rest eat ****.
Is Houston only for energy ? is it an ugly city ? dangerous ?

Houston is caring me, I feel its a place where everyone has 4 guns waiting to meet the next victim.

WHERE TO MOVE ???

[DanielWayne]

Houston isn't only energy. Skim over this:
Economy of Houston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some of the safest cities in the nation are in the Houston metro:
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Pearland and Sugar Land are two of the nation's safest cities in which to live, according to Congressional Quarterly | abc13.com
The League City Official Website!

Is it ugly? Well parts of it are and parts of it aren't. It's no more scary than any other major city.

I don't live in Austin, but it certainly isn't only high tech.

[adham]

DanielWayne

Thanks - that was helpful !!!
You know anything about Austin ???

[radiolibre99]

Pros about Houston:
Jobs, jobs, jobs. This isn't to say that you should move to Houston without a job, secure one first, but there are an abundance of jobs if you have skills. And it's not just in energy. Houston is unique that it has strong sectors in other fields like Medicine, construction, real estate, law, engineering, logistics, ports, shipping, retail, etc.

It's the cheapest major city after San Antonio I believe. Out of the top four Austin is the most expensive, followed by Dallas, then Houston and last San Antone. In the loop it gets pricey but no where near as insane as what people want for their hovels inside Austin's downtown area.

Salaries are great from what I hear from friends. It's the land of the 50k millionaire. I have friends making that much and snagging up homes outside the loop on the cheap. A household income of 80k is what my best friend lives off of and he is doing really really well.

Cons for Houston:
It is ugly. I cannot stress this enough. If you currently live anywhere hilly, with four seasons and next to beautiful lakes, rivers or oceans, then you will be utterly disappointed. It is not the most aesthetically pleasing city at all. At least midwestern/north atlantic rust belt towns that are on their way out have some amazing topography, but Houston lacks that in more ways than one. If you do not care about that then you shouldn't worry about it. It's just that it's flat and hot and humid, and when I say humid I mean unbearably steamy to where you cannot live without AC.

It's pretty conservative outside of the inner loop. If you don't care about that then you're fine. It's just after living in a solidly blue state for a long time and coming back to Houston to stay for a few weeks I noticed the major difference for the first time in my life. Sorry to say, and the Texans on this forum will vehemently deny this, but there is a subtle slight racial hierarchy (not so much in the city). Most people get along just fine and no one lets such a thing even bother them or affect their career moves but it's just weird that it's there. It bothers me but it certainly doesn't seem to bother anyone else. Maybe they're just used to it or don't even notice it or don't think it really affects them personally, IDK.

Austin:
Expensive. Too many people. Worse traffic. Expensive. Tighter job market. Fierce competition for those jobs. Expensive.

Pros: Beautiful little city. Utterly gorgeous hill country outskirts with dazzling lakes. I can see why it's a highly sought after place to call home. Eclectic live and let live vibe. Friendly people, not dog eat dog like Houston. Totally laid back and comfortable culture.

[adham]

First Thanks.
Second - regarding jobs, is it welcoming for new college graduates or is it hard to put ur feet in doors ???

[radiolibre99]

Houston is friendlier to me to recent grads than Austin would be. I mean the city revolves around UT Austin which is supplying a steady stream of grads every year, not to mention the graduates from CA and Northeast schools dying for their piece of the Austin pie. So I bet job wise it's way more competitive out there and while I love cities with a large creative class, you have to deal with their egos and while Austinites assure me Austin is still a laid back unpretentious place, you cannot tell me that with that many transplants from the West and East coasts from top schools, that they did not bring with them a piece of that egotistical culture.

I love Houston because it's still the type of city in certain sectors not in the loop, where if someone likes the impression you've given them and you have the skills necessary for the job, then you have a big chance.

[adham]

Got your point !
What if its hard for me to secure a job before moving there, should i just move and start my job hunting ???
I am outside the U.S at the moment.

[Schumacher713]

Originally Posted by adham

First Thanks.
Second - regarding jobs, is it welcoming for new college graduates or is it hard to put ur feet in doors ???

Austin jobs are harder than Houston for sure. You will compete with a ton of hipsters that just want to live in Austin because it is Austin.

[radiolibre99]

Originally Posted by Schumacher713

Austin jobs are harder than Houston for sure. You will compete with a ton of hipsters that just want to live in Austin because it is Austin.

Ugh. Forget that. That's how it is in LA. Its hard to get a job even in retail cus this city is filled with a lot if unskilled dreamy slackers with no creds.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by adham

Where would be the best place to get a job in marketing/Sales/Management ???

Is Austin only for High-tech ? Is it like Silicon valley where its crowded with engineers and all the rest eat ****.
Is Houston only for energy ? is it an ugly city ? dangerous ?

Houston is caring me, I feel its a place where everyone has 4 guns waiting to meet the next victim.

WHERE TO MOVE ???

You should move to Austin.