Historic Slave Cemetery Bulldozed In Houston (race, history, accept)

[marksmu]

Originally Posted by txdemo

Let me borrow one of your lame arguments. Rednecks can be white, black, blue.... I didn't say white people - you did.

You obviusly did not read the comments below the article. There were numerous mentions of the "white devils" and the whitey still treating the slaves as if they don't matter. Multiple instances of others saying this type of thing does not happen to white folks cemeteries, etc.

You need to read that which I referred to before you jump to conclusion, less you like an....

[MAROON79]

maybe if the family that owned it (and is apparently so concerned about the final resting place of their relatives) had shown some care and kept up the place then it wouldn't have been mistaken for an overgrown mess and this mistake might have not have happened. Look for large monetary damages to be claimed

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by NickelsTX

Didn't you hear? You're allowed to be racist...as long as it's against white people.

Even thought I know your just being smart. This statement is actually correct. Blacks can't be racist to whites. We can dislike whites, but it's not the same as racism.

@rep

Perhaps you should learn the history of racism before you start co-signing the idea that blacks can be racist. Racism is more than hating one due to race.

[jerbear30]

Originally Posted by MAROON79

maybe if the family that owned it (and is apparently so concerned about the final resting place of their relatives) had shown some care and kept up the place then it wouldn't have been mistaken for an overgrown mess and this mistake might have not have happened. Look for large monetary damages to be claimed

To the point: this was someone's property. Generally, when we do anything involving development, we do it with our own property. A close second option might be to first ascertain whose property it is and then ask if we can buy it. We don't bulldoze anything we don't know without asking--no matter its condition. What an absurd response.

[NickelsTX]

Originally Posted by txdemo

Let me borrow one of your lame arguments. Rednecks can be white, black, blue.... I didn't say white people - you did.

My comment had absolutely nothing to do with your post. I always ignore your garbage.

My comment was about current racial tension in the US in general.

[NickelsTX]

Originally Posted by blkgiraffe

Blacks can't be racist to whites.

This is one of the many ignorances of the black community. It's one of the reason it's been on a steady decline since the civil rights era.

Perhaps you should learn about the European slaves in Africa before the first slave was brought here. My people want reparations. Too bad the fine continent of Africa is too broke to pay us.

[NickelsTX]

Also, since the first humans were believed to from Africa, we are all black. Therefore, according to your logic, no one can be racist.

/thread

[jerbear30]

Originally Posted by NickelsTX

This is one of the many ignorances of the black community. It's one of the reason it's been on a steady decline since the civil rights era.

Perhaps you should learn about the European slaves in Africa before the first slave was brought here. My people want reparations. Too bad the fine continent of Africa is too broke to pay us.

Most academically-informed definitions of racism at this point in history involve more than simply hating on a skin color. Racism is also seen to involve the power-structures of the society in which the racism occurs. For instance, in the United States, racism has emerged out of a practice of slavery and later segregation. Look at it this way: racism may be a "two-way street" as you suggest, but that response doesn't factor into account who built the "street" and made its traffic laws. In the United States, that was historically white people. Thus, any instance of racism here is really originating within the context of a history of white-supremacist values and laws, whether it be white on black or black on white. White racism is at the root of all permutations of racism in American society. I think it is unpleasant to admit this, but it is also a fact.

[testmo]

Houston is really rich in early freedmen history. if the city had done preservation right in the early 1900s-1960s it'd be on the tourist track amongst other parts of the south.

Freedman's town - virtually all of what the 4th ward is was one of the most prosperous black communities in the turn of the century. those bricks that still line some streets were handmade with the sand they carted up the bayou and in carts from galveston. its gentrified so it no longer exists (literally - there is just one small sign and virtually nothing original or even old left)

Emancipation park - most houstonians dont even know what this is

many slaves were brought into this part of the south from the gulf and louisiana along buffalo bayou. they were sold alongst its banks. if you believe one of the stories Houston was first settled because the brothers couldnt safely get their slaves to go any further up the bayou than where the boats last got stuck (fearing a revolt)

sad to see this part of history being slowly erased. its important - not a celebration of slavery, but an understanding of where our cultures came from and went through and a celebration of the people and families that survived those conditions.

[blkgiraffe]

Originally Posted by jerbear30

Most academically-informed definitions of racism at this point in history involve more than simply hating on a skin color. Racism is also seen to involve the power-structures of the society in which the racism occurs. For instance, in the United States, racism has emerged out of a practice of slavery and later segregation. Look at it this way: racism may be a "two-way street" as you suggest, but that response doesn't factor into account who built the "street" and made its traffic laws. In the United States, that was historically white people. Thus, any instance of racism here is really originating within the context of a history of white-supremacist values and laws, whether it be white on black or black on white. White racism is at the root of all permutations of racism in American society. I think it is unpleasant to admit this, but it is also a fact.