Arizona's Immigration Law for Houston (Bellaire: to buy, taxi, minimum wage)

[danmedic]

Originally Posted by Chanteuse d' Opéra

No, no, and no. Why is this even a question???

Why is WHAT even a question? That we would like to see our governments (federal, state and local) enforce our immigration laws? It's a question because you don't get to disregard the laws you don't like. And before someone says it, traffic laws and federal immigration laws are not even the same things.

[Vicman]

Of them, only the federal government has the actual jurisdiction to enforce immigration laws. The state and local governments cannot interfere with that process.

Originally Posted by danmedic

Why is WHAT even a question? That we would like to see our governments (federal, state and local) enforce our immigration laws? It's a question because you don't get to disregard the laws you don't like. And before someone says it, traffic laws and federal immigration laws are not even the same things.

[crbcrbrgv]

Originally Posted by rugby

Whites are already a minority in S. California, and it is projected that 2020 a minority in the whole of CA.

We lived in Oceanside CA. during the years 1982 to 2007 we saw the city change from a white, mostly military retiree town, to a predominately Mexican speaking community, with 3-4 families crowded into small rentals, clunker cars parked in the driveways and streets. The only ones who spoke English were the children who were born here!

You will find groups of Mexicans hanging out on the street corners hoping to be offered jobs. Mexicans camping out in the underpasses, or on your property, Migrant camps spring up everywhere breeding their own corruption! The adjacent cities of Vista and Escondido are even worse.

Oceanside has twenty nine registered gangs, and the city has their own full time, gang, police detail

Yes there are illegals with money, who buy in upscale neighborhoods and set up their meth labs. There aee also the gate, border patrol agents who are bribed to pass certain cars through the checkpoints!

There are pregnant mexicans who came over for a 'visit' and went into labor delivering their baby in a US hospital (expenses paid by the taxpayer) and immediately qualified for state support and welfare services.

The elementary schools provided dual language classes, which was eventually abandoned by the city of Oceanside AFTER FIFTEEN YEARS, when studies showed that there was no improvement in English language skills. Why, you may ask? Well illegals stay in their own little communities, there is no incentive for them to learn the language of the country they so desperately want to live in.

Many do not try to assimilate!

Even our government caters to them, everything is now printed in Spanish and bilingual is preferred for many jobs!

An example:The Mexican woman up the street from us, lived in a section 8 house, along with her four children, for which she received WIC and welfare payments/food stamps. The city paid tuition for her to attend the local community college in order to better herself. Her boyfriend moved in with her, he was the babysitter (at the taxpayers expense). Six months later she gave birth to her fifth child! (Taxpayers to the rescue again).

The rights and benefits earned and paid for by Americans, native born and naturalized are a huge magnet to the citizens of Mexico and other countries that have corrupt governments, wars, poverty etc.

We are all for compassion (and perhaps for Democrats, more voters) but we need to face the fact that our borders are deluged with illegals that we the taxpayer cannot support in the manner that we have.

Our politicians have put forward various plans they would like to make law,to help them gain legal status. Which would require illegals to return to their own countries and apply like every other, law abiding immigrant has and does!

When you defend/encourage illegal immigration you are giving away another American's entitlements.

Good Lord, and people wonder why educated dark skinned Mexican-American women such as my wife are afraid of this law. It's because of people like you, rugby.

[Imforit]

Originally Posted by chris_ut

"Illegal immigrants entering Texas' higher education system are direct beneficiaries of a 1982 Supreme Court decision, Plyler vs. Doe. Parents in Tyler sued after the state began charging tuition for illegal immigrant children. The court ruled that Texas and the rest of the country must educate illegal immigrant children free of charge in public schools."

The children get instate tuition because they spent their lives in the state school system. If your parents brought you here as a baby and you lived your whole life in Texas and graduated from high school should you be punished for your parents sins? Also if your whole family lives in the US and you have lived in the US your entire life are you supposed to go back to some foreign country where you may know nobody?

First of all, I do not care if they spent their lifes here or not. So did Americans and they do not get in state tuition like this when they move to a different state. Illegal is illegal.
Why would I care if they know someone in their home country? They know they committed a crime and need to deal with the consequences.
Never heard of Plyler vs. Doe, but thates do not have to give them in state tuition, obviously. Dosen't have anything to do with College education. Not all states do this. They need to be deported. Period.

[Imforit]

Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv

Good Lord, and people wonder why educated dark skinned Mexican-American women such as my wife are afraid of this law. It's because of people like you, rugby.

Waving Mexican flags, sighns with "We demand legalization", spanish speaking signs saying "Yes, we can", Nazi signs etc. is what you call fear of profiling? Looks more like they want amnesty ASAP. And most people who actually DID protests against "profiling" were white Americans. There's something wrong with that picture. Does not look like many dark-skinned South Americans are afraid of profiling...

[crbcrbrgv]

Originally Posted by Imforit

Waving Mexican flags, sighns with "We demand legalization", spanish speaking signs saying "Yes, we can", Nazi signs etc. is what you call fear of profiling? Looks more like they want amnesty ASAP. And most people who actually DID protests against "profiling" were white Americans. There's something wrong with that picture. Does not look like many dark-skinned South Americans are afraid of profiling...

What's really wrong with this picture is that you are about the fourth person to respond to one of my posts out of the blue as a brand new member. Apparently, somebody needs to grow a pair.

With that said, what is the issue with waving Mexican flags? Why are so many people afraid of them? Another thing I don't understand is why people are so offended by neighborhoods where everything is in Spanish and people speak Spanish. Does it really matter? Very few people complain about the signs in Asiatown in Asian languages.

That's another thing that gets me. Why no call to get after the tons of Asian illegals in Houston? How about the ones in California?

When you read some of the posts by people it just becomes blatantly obvious this issue has a lot more to do with disliking poor Mexicans than illegal immigration.

[Imforit]

Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv

What's really wrong with this picture is that you are about the fourth person to respond to one of my posts out of the blue as a brand new member. Apparently, somebody needs to grow a pair. With that said, what is the issue with waving Mexican flags? Why are so many people afraid of them? Another thing I don't understand is why people are so offended by neighborhoods where everything is in Spanish and people speak Spanish. Does it really matter? Very few people complain about the signs in Asiatown in Asian languages. That's another thing that gets me. Why no call to get after the tons of Asian illegals in Houston? How about the ones in California? When you read some of the posts by people it just becomes blatantly obvious this issue has a lot more to do with disliking poor Mexicans than illegal immigration.

What are you talking about? Don't like my posts?? Too bad. The Asian signs are limited to that area. Asians usually do not show so much disrespect. There are a "ton" of Asian illegals in Houston? Where?? ( If The rolling eye smiley would work, then that's what you would see right here..) You keep trying to turn this into a racial debate. I guess that's a desperate try to say something against this whole issue.. And I mentioned Mexican flags because that is all I saw. No one else sees to do it. So that's another baseless accusation.

[crbcrbrgv]

Originally Posted by Imforit

What are you talking about? Don't like my posts?? Too bad. The Asian signs are limited to that area. Asians usually do not show so much disrespect. There are a "ton" of Asian illegals in Houston? Where?? ( If The rolling eye smiley would work, then that's what you would see right here..) You keep trying to turn this into a racial debate. I guess that's a desperate try to say something against this whole issue.. And I mentioned Mexican flags because that is all I saw. No one else sees to do it. So that's another baseless accusation.

I prefer your posts be from your actual user name.

[cheryjohns]

Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv

With that said, what is the issue with waving Mexican flags?

Although I agree with you on about 90% - I do have a problem with waving ANY flag other than ours in this country, with the exception being over a foreign embassy. It's disrespectful. I would not dare presume to go to any other country and wave the American flag. They would be totally justified in telling me to go back to America immediately, if I were to do so - which is exactly how I feel when I see someone waving another flag here.

[Imforit]

Originally Posted by crbcrbrgv

I prefer your posts be from your actual user name.

???? It is a Monday night. So it can't be what I am thinking it is. But I am not interested in participating here any other than this topic. I am a busy guy.

Something I forgot to add was that you might be right about the unfavorable Mexican sentiment. Looks like you are a liberal? Then you probably agreed with the anti American sentiment when Bush was in office. All the bad came from one source ( yes, some Deomcrats too). It is not much different with Mexicans here. The majority of illegals are Mexicans.

It's late.. time to study for my citizenship test on Wednesday