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Old 10-21-2011, 03:59 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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"Chris Crane, president of a union that represents Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers, testified in the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration last week that ICE agents have been told by ICE headquarters not to arrest illegal aliens who do not have a prior criminal conviction even if they are fugitives who have been ordered deported by an immigration judge or are individuals who have illegally re-entered the United States after being deported and thus have perpetrated a felony."

Union President Testifies: ICE HQ Ordered Agents Not to Arrest Illegals--Including Fugitives | CNSnews.com
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Re-entry after deportation is a FELONY offense. They certainly will arrest, prosecute, and incarcerate citizen felons. Yet, illegal alien felons are off-limits. Do we need more proof of their de facto amnesty, or our two-tiered system of justice?
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:57 AM
 
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Re-entry after deportation is a FELONY offense. They certainly will arrest, prosecute, and incarcerate citizen felons. Yet, illegal alien felons are off-limits. Do we need more proof of their de facto amnesty, or our two-tiered system of justice?
ICE has limited resources so they go after more dangerous felons prosecuting aliens for re-entry is not job of ICE it's job of US Attorneys
and there are lots of cases where US Attys decline prosecution ICE can only ask if AUSA will prosecute the alien and if the alien don't have a substantial
criminal record it will decline prosecution
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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ICE has limited resources so they go after more dangerous felons prosecuting aliens for re-entry is not job of ICE it's job of US Attorneys
and there are lots of cases where US Attys decline prosecution ICE can only ask if AUSA will prosecute the alien and if the alien don't have a substantial
criminal record it will decline prosecution

A FELONY is a FELONY...

that is, unless you are an illegal alien...
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Old 10-22-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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A FELONY is a FELONY...

that is, unless you are an illegal alien...
then ask US Congress to give $100 billion to US Justice Dept to prosecute all felonies
US Attys have broad authority to prosecute and it's their discretion to deny prosecution to some felonies
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Old 10-22-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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ICE has limited resources so they go after more dangerous felons prosecuting aliens for re-entry is not job of ICE it's job of US Attorneys
and there are lots of cases where US Attys decline prosecution ICE can only ask if AUSA will prosecute the alien and if the alien don't have a substantial
criminal record it will decline prosecution
This isn't an issue of limited resources. This is political posturing, and pandering to special interest groups and foreign governments, primarily Mexico. And, how do they know that those guilty of illegal re-entry aren't also guilty of other more egregious crimes? But, what's new? If they have no intentions of prosecuting deportees for "felony" re-entry, then they should change the law, not ignore it. This is precisely why we have so many criminal illegals roaming freely in this country. Sadly, they aren't considered a threat until AFTER they have raped, maimed, or killed. Then, they usually flee the country, wait until the heat dies down, and return under a different alias.
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:17 PM
 
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ICE has limited resources so they go after more dangerous felons prosecuting aliens for re-entry is not job of ICE it's job of US Attorneys
and there are lots of cases where US Attys decline prosecution ICE can only ask if AUSA will prosecute the alien and if the alien don't have a substantial
criminal record it will decline prosecution
While they address those with more substantial records, the country and the states continue to go broke. That's my problem with how they go after illegal immigration. They ignore those who don't commit violent or drug-related crimes, but that doesn't help the take away the side-issues that come with illegal immigration. Let the non-violent criminal illegal immigrant stay here and you give them time to create an anchor (not intentionally using that term) here that gives them a base in this country. They will ahve children here, children will receive support from the government and they use the fact that they have children born here in court to fight deportation.

It's just all messed up and COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE the way the government is handling it.
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:18 AM
 
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While they address those with more substantial records, the country and the states continue to go broke. That's my problem with how they go after illegal immigration. They ignore those who don't commit violent or drug-related crimes, but that doesn't help the take away the side-issues that come with illegal immigration. Let the non-violent criminal illegal immigrant stay here and you give them time to create an anchor (not intentionally using that term) here that gives them a base in this country. They will ahve children here, children will receive support from the government and they use the fact that they have children born here in court to fight deportation.

It's just all messed up and COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE the way the government is handling it.
I so agree with you here. In many ways allowing the so-called non-criminal illegals to remain here is more devasting to our country as a whole than those crimes committed on individual citizens. They all need to be deported regardless of their existing or non-existing criminal records.
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:04 AM
 
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Eventually the US will declare an amnesty for all the illegals. It's been done before. And then the cycle begins all over again. This is what Obama and Biden are proposing:

US Immigration Amnesty

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The proposed immigration amnesty would benefit the 12 to 20 million undocumented aliens (illegal immigrants) currently living in the United States. An amnesty for illegal aliens forgives their acts of illegal immigration and implicitly forgives other related illegal acts such as driving and working with false documents. The result of an amnesty is that large numbers of foreigners who illegally gained entry into the United States are rewarded with legal status (Green Card) for breaking immigration laws.

The United States has granted amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants through different amnesty and laws. Before the first amnesty in 1986, amnesty was only given on a case by cases basis. Amnesty was never given to a large group of individuals. The first (and supposedly one-time only) amnesty in 1986 gave about 2.8 million illegal immigrations the opportunity to change their status through the Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA).
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:22 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Eventually the US will declare an amnesty for all the illegals. It's been done before. And then the cycle begins all over again. This is what Obama and Biden are proposing:
Good luck passing that amnesty...

I believe if they try to pull the amnesty card, a Civil War type of event will happen.

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