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Old 06-14-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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You don't come here illegally & demand things
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:34 PM
 
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You don't come here illegally & demand things
The President can not halt the deportations of DREAM eligible persons. He doesn't have the power by Executive Order to do so. Here is a link to what the 90 Law Professors claim the POTUS can do:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/us...nandemigration
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This week student leaders presented White House officials with a letter signed by more than 90 immigration law professors who argued that the president has “clear executive authority” to halt deportations of illegal immigrants who might benefit from the student legislation. The professors, from universities across the country, pointed to several measures the president could take under existing laws to defer deportations and permit young immigrants to stay temporarily.
Deferring deportation is up to an IJ for which there is no work authorization. It also only defers their departure for no more than 1 year, at which point they must leave. Here is one of the measures the Law Professors cite in their brief
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One measure they cite was used by President Jimmy Carter to admit thousands of Cubans to the United States in 1980, during the mass exodus known as the Mariel boatlift.
All of the issues brought up in the Professors brief are for persons here on immigrant visas or those seeking asylum or those who have humanitarian reasons for not returning back to their nation, i.e. Haiti Earthquake. This has all been brought up in the last few years for which has already been shown that POTUS does not have authority to exercise Executive Order over illegal aliens and that IA's do not fall under any of the criteria as has been claimed. (All though they will claim it is a humanitarian issue for them, when it really isn't.)

The link to the Law Professors brief: file:///C:/DOCUME~1/Owner/LOCALS~1/Temp/5-30-12LawProfLetterDREAM.pdf
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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The President can not halt the deportations of DREAM eligible persons. He doesn't have the power by Executive Order to do so. Here is a link to what the 90 Law Professors claim the POTUS can do:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/us...nandemigration Deferring deportation is up to an IJ for which there is no work authorization. It also only defers their departure for no more than 1 year, at which point they must leave. Here is one of the measures the Law Professors cite in their brief All of the issues brought up in the Professors brief are for persons here on immigrant visas or those seeking asylum or those who have humanitarian reasons for not returning back to their nation, i.e. Haiti Earthquake. This has all been brought up in the last few years for which has already been shown that POTUS does not have authority to exercise Executive Order over illegal aliens and that IA's do not fall under any of the criteria as has been claimed. (All though they will claim it is a humanitarian issue for them, when it really isn't.)

The link to the Law Professors brief: file:///C:/DOCUME~1/Owner/LOCALS~1/Temp/5-30-12LawProfLetterDREAM.pdf
So that means that the 300,000 that he has already given a back door amnesty to he had no legal authorization to do so, right?
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:03 PM
 
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So that means that the 300,000 that he has already given a back door amnesty to he had no legal authorization to do so, right?
The 300,000 is the prosecutorial discretion that really hasn't granted anything. The few, very few, that received the discretion don't have work authorization and are only deferred for no more than 1 year for which at that time they must be deported. POTUS has the ability to do what he has done so far, interpret the laws his way and have DHS enforce them accordingly. He doesn't have the authorization to grant any deferrals to DREAM'ers, only to prioritize deportations, which he has already done.
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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The 300,000 is the prosecutorial discretion that really hasn't granted anything. The few, very few, that received the discretion don't have work authorization and are only deferred for no more than 1 year for which at that time they must be deported. POTUS has the ability to do what he has done so far, interpret the laws his way and have DHS enforce them accordingly. He doesn't have the authorization to grant any deferrals to DREAM'ers, only to prioritize deportations, which he has already done.
Hmm, I read that at least some of the 300,000 might possibly get work permits if they haven't already. What was the point if they are going to be deported in a year anyway?
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:32 PM
 
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Hmm, I read that at least some of the 300,000 might possibly get work permits if they haven't already. What was the point if they are going to be deported in a year anyway?
Those that receive prosecutorial discretion must apply for work authorization, the likeliness of them receiving it is very, very low.
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....only after applying for Cancellation relief can the alien apply for a work permit.
Prosecutorial Discretion: Some immigration judges may not want to play
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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News from The Associated Press

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives.
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In making it harder to deport, the Obama administration is in essence employing the same eligibility requirements spelled out in the proposed DREAM Act.

The administration officials stopped short of calling the change an administrative DREAM Act - the name is an acronym for Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors - but the qualifications meet those laid out in a 2010 version that failed in the Senate after passing in the House. They said the DREAM Act, in some form, and comprehensive overhaul of the immigration system remained an administration priority.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:38 AM
 
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You don't come here illegally & demand things
Evidently you do.

News from The Associated Press
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:39 AM
 
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Hmm, I read that at least some of the 300,000 might possibly get work permits if they haven't already. What was the point if they are going to be deported in a year anyway?
Make that 800K, 800K more people competing for young Americans's jobs.
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The policy change, described to The Associated Press by two senior administration officials, will affect as many as 800,000 immigrants who have lived in fear of deportation. It also bypasses Congress and partially achieves the goals of the so-called DREAM Act, a long-sought but never enacted plan to establish a path toward citizenship for young people who came to the United States illegally but who have attended college or served in the military.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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A plus side to to this is this will backfire just like the gay marriage fiasco. The internet is already abuzz and even on liberla sites it's not positive buzz.
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