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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — The New York Senate rejected a bill Monday that would open up state tuition assistance to students in the country illegally, dashing long-held hopes of immigration advocates and prompting finger-pointing among rival Democrats.
The fact that the NY state senate rejected the DREAM Act, is very impressive given that NY is a deep blue state. When blue states say "no" to this nonsense, it gives me hope!
The fact that the NY state senate rejected the DREAM Act, is very impressive given that NY is a deep blue state. When blue states say "no" to this nonsense, it gives me hope!
IMHO attitudes are starting to go AGAINST illegal aliens in peoples' eyes. Even many "liberals" of the "lib" kind are over it with illegals and their "you owe me" attitudes.
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — The New York Senate rejected a bill Monday that would open up state tuition assistance to students in the country illegally, dashing long-held hopes of immigration advocates and prompting finger-pointing among rival Democrats.
Time to copy and paste that same kind of law in ALL states including Cali.
Good. Let TX now.
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Originally Posted by BOS2IAD
The fact that the NY state senate rejected the DREAM Act, is very impressive given that NY is a deep blue state. When blue states say "no" to this nonsense, it gives me hope!
Simple solution , become legal and you can make your dreams come true ! These democrats that voted for this should leave this country along with the illegals here.
The fact that the NY state senate rejected the DREAM Act, is very impressive given that NY is a deep blue state. When blue states say "no" to this nonsense, it gives me hope!
I'm a flaming liberal and always saw illegal immigration as a Republican-caused issue, so I was always against it. I've been disappointed in the Obama Administration but in a way I understand the lip service he's giving to it since we now have over 20 million of these folks here thanks to the Simpson-Mazzoli Act (signed by conservative hero Ronald Reagan) and decades of little to no enforcement. To be fair though, there wasn't much public outcry until the economy tanked in 2008. Before that no one cared because the economy was so strong so every administration since Reagan just sort of looked the other way (and yes that includes Clinton).
Some Democrats see the illegals as a large block of voters so they want their legalization. Others want it on "humanitarian" grounds. There's enough of these constituents now such that I doubt you'll ever see any Democrat openly advocate for strict immigration enforcement. But I don't think this is universal sentiment in the Democratic party. I have many very liberal friends who are totally against this. And even Obama, aside from his stupid and off-putting decision to halt deportations via Executive Order, hasn't done much of substance for the illegals.
I'm a flaming liberal and always saw illegal immigration as a Republican-caused issue, so I was always against it. I've been disappointed in the Obama Administration but in a way I understand the lip service he's giving to it since we now have over 20 million of these folks here thanks to the Simpson-Mazzoli Act (signed by conservative hero Ronald Reagan) and decades of little to no enforcement. To be fair though, there wasn't much public outcry until the economy tanked in 2008. Before that no one cared because the economy was so strong so every administration since Reagan just sort of looked the other way (and yes that includes Clinton).
Some Democrats see the illegals as a large block of voters so they want their legalization. Others want it on "humanitarian" grounds. There's enough of these constituents now such that I doubt you'll ever see any Democrat openly advocate for strict immigration enforcement. But I don't think this is universal sentiment in the Democratic party. I have many very liberal friends who are totally against this. And even Obama, aside from his stupid and off-putting decision to halt deportations via Executive Order, hasn't done much of substance for the illegals.
It's not humanitarian to the American people -- not by any stretch. We have kids in the inner cities whose only options are prison, death -- or a job -- and the jobs are getting scarcer and scarcer while the politicians promise the "American Dream" to any foreigner who breaks the immigration laws.
And it's not humanitarian for the taxpayers --- a very large chunk of the poverty is being imported.
Cesar Chavez and the UFW were against illegal immigration -- because back then liberals knew it was only to keep wages at rock bottom and job benefits nil.
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Ah...good point, BigD
