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Old 11-14-2014, 05:39 AM
 
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Obama needs to gtfo of the White House already and send him and the 15+ million illegals all packing out of the country. The political establishment is far to corrupt and beyond fixing. Abolish the corporate-state!
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Old 11-14-2014, 06:06 AM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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Obama had 2 years of 100% Democrat control. Why didn't he do something then to get a bill passed ?
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Old 11-14-2014, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The RW politicians will huff and puff, what remains of actual Repub politicians will say a few things but will not try to stop it, as it will provide some reforms that most politicians agree with. The blowhard RWers will continue to rant, the serious GOPers will embrace this going into law, the R Govs Prez wannabes will try to figure some way to sidestep the ranting nut jobs.

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Old 11-14-2014, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Obama had 2 years of 100% Democrat control. Why didn't he do something then to get a bill passed ?
Actually about 6 months until Rs could make filibusters stick and he did pass Recovery Act(thanks is due by the way) and ACA(thanks is also due the way) then Rs took over the House and all things stopped.
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Old 11-14-2014, 06:22 AM
 
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"The RW politicians will huff and puff, what remains of actual Repub politicians will say a few things but will not try to stop it, as it will provide some reforms that most politicians agree with. The blowhard RWers will continue to rant, the serious GOPers will embrace this going into law, the R Govs Prez wannabes will try to figure some way to sidestep the anting nut jobs."



I think you much underestimate the outrage this will bring from the people Bob.
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Old 11-14-2014, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Where I live.
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I think you much underestimate the outrage this will bring from the people.
Yep. Reeks of dictatorship. The president is not supposed to be writing or changing law--and that's what this EO will do if it goes through.
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Old 11-14-2014, 06:24 AM
 
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Actually about 6 months until Rs could make filibusters stick and he did pass Recovery Act(thanks is due by the way) and ACA(thanks is also due the way) then Rs took over the House and all things stopped.
But, but, but he didn't even try. He can't even wait 6 months now because he feels it's such a high priority.
He could have done it 4 years ago if it was that big of a priority.

Also, how's he gonna stop another 10 Million from coming across the border ?

The man could wait 6 months.
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Old 11-14-2014, 09:23 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Yep. Reeks of dictatorship. The president is not supposed to be writing or changing law--and that's what this EO will do if it goes through.

Exactly and so very true. Reeks of something alright. But will his staunch supporters even get it. Or the usual excusers, they will back him up.

I have very good dear Mexican Friends who years ago, had too become US citizens the right way and yes it took time back then. They are also against this action taking place. Because they see the disadvantages to this Country, should and when this happens.

They see themselves who have prosper in this Country by dedication and hard work, they consider themselves Americans. But how many of those OBAMA lets thru will, feel this way.

The really sad irony here is that our own President, who ought to put the needs and wants of American Citizens first, have put us on the back-burner. Making the wants and desires of those who are known to break the law, his priority.
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Old 11-14-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Where I live.
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Exactly and so very true. Reeks of something alright. But will his staunch supporters even get it. Or the usual excusers, they will back him up.

I have very good dear Mexican Friends who years ago, had too become US citizens the right way and yes it took time back then. They are also against this action taking place. Because they see the disadvantages to this Country, should and when this happens.

They see themselves who have prosper in this Country by dedication and hard work, they consider themselves Americans. But how many of those OBAMA lets thru will, feel this way.

The really sad irony here is that our own President, who ought to put the needs and wants of American Citizens first, have put us on the back-burner. Making the wants and desires of those who are known to break the law, his priority.
My money says near-zero. You already see this. Illegal Mexican aliens protesting, wanting amnesty--and parading down the street carrying the Mexican flag. They want our milk and honey, but don't want to earn it the right way, and have no intention of assimilating at all. All so they can send money back home to Mexico. This money is Mexico's second or third largest source of income. It's no wonder the Mexican government bleats all the time about "amnesty" and "fair" treatment of the illegal Mexicans within our borders. Even though 75-80% of illegals are from Mexico, it's just as bad from any other country, no matter which one it is.

Those who have done it through legal channels should be PO'ed BIG time.

As for BHO--he's NOT culturally an American. He grew up relatively privileged, thanks to his white grandparents. His black African father was a deadbeat deserter who was apparently already married when he married BHO's mother. BHO spent years in Indonesia with a Muslim stepfather.

What I cannot believe is that those who read his books would actually vote for him. Standing with the muslims? It's no wonder he hates this country, and is so disconnected from it.

But he'll have his cushy pension and SS protection for the rest of his life. I wish there were some legal way to get rid of him before he is able to finish his term.
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Old 11-14-2014, 12:02 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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This is outrageous, look I realize that we cannot deport 20 million people but we cannot pander to them either because then more of them will come, and in 20 years we will have to do a third round of amnesty.

Here's one thing that particularly irritates me; half of Americans under the age of 35 are either unemployed or underemployed (myself and 2 of my cousins fall into this category) yet Obama wants to give 600,000 illegals under the age of 35 the right to legally work in the US. What about all the American kids just out of college who cannot find jobs? What about all the high school kids who want to work a job after school or during the summer?

Apprehensions along all borders are skyrocketing. I was recently on vacation in Puerto Rico where I had a conservation with a Border Patrol agent who told me that apprehensions of Haitians and Dominicans are up 500% this year compared to 2013. If this is Puerto Rico then just imagine what it's like on the Mexican border. It's no coincidence folks!
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