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Old 02-13-2017, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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This is what the Trumpies voted for. Hope they're incovenienced to the max.
That is the main reason I voted for Trump! To get rid of these leeches. It may take some time, but hey, we've got FOUR years!!
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Old 02-14-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: all over the place (figuratively)
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FYI, how ICE agents allegedly are operating:
Going to homes and workplaces and arresting people, both in individual actions and through sweeps of large apartment complexes;
Making collateral arrests of other people not originally targeted at homes and workplaces where raids were conducted (e.g., arrests of people who happened to be there when ICE arrived);
Using mobile biometrics units in rural areas to process people for deportation more quickly (mobile biometric units are handheld devices used to fingerprint people and check if they are deportable); and
Reports of arresting individuals who are using public transportation.

Source: What immigrants should know amid stepped-up ICE raids | The Stand
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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This would go a lot quicker if Trump started severely punishing the businesses that hire them, and stop all the magnets that bring and keep them here. They'd self deport, and we'd save tons on immigration courts and lawyers.
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Old 02-14-2017, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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From what I have read, these are very much like the enforcement actions under Obama, they are looking for criminal aliens, something that I have no problem with. But I agree, it would be awful to start rounding up parents who have no criminal record, and they can't deport their citizen children, so you can imagine what a fine mess that would be.
Deporting citizen children? I believe it's called letting a parent keep custody of their minor child. A juvenile belongs with his or her parents wherever the parents reside. Does a five year-old understand the concept of citizenship and national sovereignty? No, they know mom and dad and that's where their place is. People shouldn't be allowed to skirt immigration law by breeding around it. It's not the job of the United States government to bend immigration law to the reproductive whims of people here illegally. This separation of families mess is squarely on the shoulders of the person who MADE THE CHOICE to come here illegally and then MADE THE CHOICE to have children on our soil. If you're going to be a criminal, at least get on birth control so you don't bring others into the world who get wrapped up in your legal drama.
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Old 02-14-2017, 06:59 PM
 
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Deporting citizen children? I believe it's called letting a parent keep custody of their minor child. A juvenile belongs with his or her parents wherever the parents reside. Does a five year-old understand the concept of citizenship and national sovereignty? No, they know mom and dad and that's where their place is. People shouldn't be allowed to skirt immigration law by breeding around it. It's not the job of the United States government to bend immigration law to the reproductive whims of people here illegally. This separation of families mess is squarely on the shoulders of the person who MADE THE CHOICE to come here illegally and then MADE THE CHOICE to have children on our soil. If you're going to be a criminal, at least get on birth control so you don't bring others into the world who get wrapped up in your legal drama.
Excellent post. Thank you!
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Old 02-15-2017, 06:06 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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This is what the Trumpies voted for. Hope they're incovenienced to the max.
What inconvenience would that be?
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:16 PM
 
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So far there's no indication the raids are targeting anyone close in profile to Dreamers, and I'd be surprised if the government begins hunting them down. I assume most people would find it unfair and distasteful. I suppose eventually very young children who have been here for a few years might be rounded up and deported along with their parents, but even that would ruffle feathers.
I could be wrong but I thought Trump said he was going to leave the dreamers (illegal alien kids) alone.

And where is 18montcleir (sorry I forgot his name) who said California would not allow any raids? What happened? Why aren't all the crazy zealots in California rising up? No guts? All talk?

All I see is politicians and "activists" going nuts. Welcome to the real world. I'm thoroughly enjoying this.
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Deporting citizen children? I believe it's called letting a parent keep custody of their minor child. A juvenile belongs with his or her parents wherever the parents reside. Does a five year-old understand the concept of citizenship and national sovereignty? No, they know mom and dad and that's where their place is. People shouldn't be allowed to skirt immigration law by breeding around it. It's not the job of the United States government to bend immigration law to the reproductive whims of people here illegally. This separation of families mess is squarely on the shoulders of the person who MADE THE CHOICE to come here illegally and then MADE THE CHOICE to have children on our soil. If you're going to be a criminal, at least get on birth control so you don't bring others into the world who get wrapped up in your legal drama.
No need to scold me, I am a US born citizen of US born parents. But I will repeat, they can't deport citizen children. I didn't write the constitution and neither did you, so why do you want to argue about it?

Not that I expect that you care, but Mexico doesn't even acknowledge that these kids are Mexican citizens so many of them don't have the required documentation that will allow them to attend school in Mexico. U.S.-born students in Mexico risk becoming 'lost generation' - LA Times
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Old 02-16-2017, 03:30 PM
 
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LA needs these raids so badly.

Finally common sense has arrived.
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Old 02-16-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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No need to scold me, I am a US born citizen of US born parents. But I will repeat, they can't deport citizen children. I didn't write the constitution and neither did you, so why do you want to argue about it?

Not that I expect that you care, but Mexico doesn't even acknowledge that these kids are Mexican citizens so many of them don't have the required documentation that will allow them to attend school in Mexico. U.S.-born students in Mexico risk becoming 'lost generation' - LA Times
Once the parents are sent BACK to Mexico; then it's on that country to deal with the US born anchor kid mess. Mexico needs to grow up. Period.
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