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I'll TRY to explain this one more time, but I'm not optimistic. TWO men, out of hundreds of thousands do not constitute ALL DACA youth to be bad people.
I agree, however, there is also no evidence that they are all GOOD people either. What we do know is that if they're working they are most likely using fake SS numbers. Plus, they are not YOUTHS, the average age is around 25.
The problem is that while they are waiting to gain citizenship or they get caught committing crimes they'll be giving birth on our soil and that creates a whole new set of problems.
Heck, they are already giving birth, the average age is 24 for a DACA and here, they start having kids at 15! Doesn't need to be a problem, keep the family together and ship them all out.
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Originally Posted by Axxlrod
But, but, but, the liberals/media say all DACA members are honest, hard-working people who do nothing but go to school and/or work to put food on their family's tables, and that their presence here makes our country a better place.
How can this be?????
I'm shocked i tell you! Shocked!!
I have a PDF file on the facts about DACA, I kept putting it up on Schumer's Facebook page, and it kept getting marked as "spam", I just kept putting it back up for an entire evening.
Could it be that the liberals are lying? I just cannot imagine that would be the case!
Most DACA recipients "have committed multiple felonies in order to get jobs," wrote Ronald Mortensen of the Center for Immigration Studies in a March 2017 report, listing the crimes: "Social Security fraud, forgery, perjury on I-9 forms, falsification of green cards and driver's licenses, identity theft, etc."
"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree."
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Originally Posted by WMak70
Don't be so dramatic. The vast majority of them are decent people who are just like you and me, they simply want a better life. All human groups have a certain percentage who are bad people, be it DACA, or Physicians, or politicians, or Clergy. Two people being arrested do not make for painting EVER DACA as a bad hombre, like your leader suggests.
So, how is it that you know the vast majority? They are NOT like me, maybe you, but NOT me. My parents brought me up to respect the laws of the country and neither they nor I have cheated the system. None of it matters anyway, because we have laws to take care of the problem that they are. I am sick of them demanding we change our laws to accommodate them. They have no standing here.
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Originally Posted by Jimmyp25
Im confused. If they were brought here as "children" beyond their own will. Then, they were raised here as "americans", then why are the smuggling illegal mexicans over the border into the USA? Wouldn't they have the best interests of the USA in their mind? How would they be in contact with human trafficker if they were raised her as children?
Money? A job? I just read that the high school dropout rate for DACA is 21%. Oops, aren't they all supposed to be college-educated and paying big time into our tax system?
We knew they weren't picking crops, obviously these are now jobs that illegal aliens don't want to do.
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Originally Posted by WMak70
I'll TRY to explain this one more time, but I'm not optimistic. TWO men, out of hundreds of thousands do not constitute ALL DACA youth to be bad people.
Hell, we have a certain percentage of white, Christian people who commit crimes too , but you seem to over look that fact.......it doesn't fit your agenda, does it ?
What you miss is that if they weren't in the US, the crimes they commit would not be happening. Who cares, they are illegal, have already cost the taxpayers bundle, so they should appreciate what they have extorted from us and go home.
Don't be so dramatic. The vast majority of them are decent people who are just like you and me, they simply want a better life. All human groups have a certain percentage who are bad people, be it DACA, or Physicians, or politicians, or Clergy. Two people being arrested do not make for painting EVER DACA as a bad hombre, like your leader suggests.
When did Trump call all of the DACAs bad hombres? Why is he offering amnesty for them then? That makes no sense.
Although I am 100% against a single illegal alien remaining in the USA, the 10 to 12 years before they could even think about citizenship will at least give us time to out them for their crimes. Over 2,000 have been eliminated because of crimes they have committed at this point and been caught.
It still all comes back to "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree". Brought up by parents that cheated our system, broke our laws and felt entitled to do so, what would result from that?
The thing I worry about is in 3 or 7 years will have a democrat administration and it will just rubber stamp all of the DACA citizens no matter what crimes they committed.
But, but, but, the liberals/media say all DACA members are honest, hard-working people who do nothing but go to school and/or work to put food on their family's tables, and that their presence here makes our country a better place.
How can this be?????
I'm shocked i tell you! Shocked!!
Out of any population of hundreds of thousands to millions, you will find individuals who did bad things. In your mind, you think that means they all are the same.
Do you think that one million white Americans will all come out as saints? And if some of them are rapists or murderers, then by your logic, should we assume all are?
Heck, they are already giving birth, the average age is 24 for a DACA and here, they start having kids at 15!
People may think you're exaggerating, but here's the thing... I was at a Metalachi (heavy metal/mariachi fusion band) concert in a Southern border state a few years ago, and one of their standing jokes is that Hispanic girls combine their quinceañeras (15th birthday parties, very special event for girls in their culture) and baby showers on the same day. I kid you not.
Since apparently, you're all no longer interested in discussing but simply want to fight, I'm closing this thread.
Go out for a jog or sth, to burn off all that energy.
Closed.
Yac.
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I just cannot imagine that would be the case!
