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Old 11-28-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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How relevant is evolution to medical science, anyway?

VERY. Understanding how the body works can be augmented by understanding how the body evolved to work that way, and how it adapts to deal with health-threats on a micro-cosmic stage. Biology - and by extension, Medical Science - is all informed by Evolutionary ideas today. It is part and parcel of being educated in such a field; the two are closely linked.
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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Kind of like asking how relevant is chemistry to medicine.

Evolutionary Theory permeates what we understand about most of biology, and not just in terms of medical science, but all of it.

Understanding how viruses and bacteria evolve is also likely to save us in the future as we find that they are evolving to become immune to all the things we use to treat them. It is a race we are losing and an understanding of evolution is paramount to our future ability to fight such infections and diseases.
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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How relevant is evolution to medical science, anyway?
Spoken like a true theist
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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Hopefully they fail the class. Your not quit a class or not try just because what they are teaching conflicts with your own beliefs. The class isn't about whether you agree or not agree. It's simply about the material being taught. No one has ever forced anyone to believe what is being taught, you just have to know it and do well with it.
I agree 100%. It's pure hubris (not to mention Folly) to attend a college to learn, and then refuse to learn something because it conflicts with your previously held beliefs. Why attend college at all?
Letting go of previous beliefs or teachings that were incomplete is part of the learning experience - especially in college. There's reason they call it Higher Learning.

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well what happens to toddlers at school when they want to skip class and call all the shots?
They get spanked?
Students rebelling against teachers is rather childish, isn't it?


This whole siutation is a shame, because the Arab world had been one of the most scientific bastions of intellectualism anywhere during much of the Middle Ages, and prior to that. They were the ones who preserved, and continued, the great inheritances of our Western Civilization that we 'forgot' during the Dark Ages - aptly named for that reason. Greek philosophy and science flourished under the Arabs, and they had quite the reputation for wisdom in such matters. And before anyone claims that it's necesarrily "religion" that is causing all this - Islam arose hundreds of years before this time, and Arabic inquiry still flourished later along with Islam. Perhaps it's the current millitant fundamentalist brand of Islam that can be pointed to as a component in the OP's topic?
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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Are medical students required to be atheists before they can legally practise medicine?
Non-sequitur.

What does teaching the fact of evolution have to do with atheism?

Would you agree that engineers working for NASA should accept that the earth is round and that the sun is the center of the solar system? Regardless of their religious beliefs?
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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Spoken like a true theist
Creationist, rather... most theists accept evolution
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:48 AM
 
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Non-sequitur.

What does teaching the fact of evolution have to do with atheism?

Would you agree that engineers working for NASA should accept that the earth is round and that the sun is the center of the solar system? Regardless of their religious beliefs?

Maybe I'm missing where Theophane actually spoke those words.....

Have you altered his quote by adding words he didn't write?

Here's the quote I see he made, and quoted earlier:
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How relevant is evolution to medical science, anyway?
How does that match with your rendition of it:
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Are medical students required to be atheists before they can legally practise medicine?

He doesn't mention Atheism, and his post appears to be on-topic, and not a non-sequitor. Am I missing somethign?
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:52 AM
 
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What does teaching the fact of evolution have to do with atheism?
I've never heard of an atheist openly rejecting evolution, have you? How much respect could I hope to maintain in the atheist community if I were to denounce Darwin?
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:53 AM
 
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I'm confident that "accomodations" would not be made if it they were Christians or Jews objecting on the same grounds. The Christian, Moslem and Jewish beliefs in the creation by God of all that exists are identical.
Actually, you're not correct. Only literalist Christians believe in the creation story word for word. Catholics and mainstream Protestants have typically accepted that Evolution and their beliefs are not contradictory.
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Old 11-28-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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Non-sequitur.

What does teaching the fact of evolution have to do with atheism?
Can you answer the question put to you?
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