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Old 05-13-2016, 12:57 AM
 
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Excellent question. I have asked almost the same thing. It is Allah who creates hate and torture and terrorism and all evil. It is like we are the toys of Allah and he likes to watch terrible things that he makes us do.

Think about this: Here's this all-powerful allah that created everything and controls everything.....and now he has the people he created torturing and killing each other! All he has to do is make us all muslims. But no----he has Muslims torturing and murdering and terrorism and rioting against non-Muslims. What kind of 'god' is this? This is so sadistic and hateful that it is beyond belief.

And even Allah does unbelievable and horrible torture!

From my brief research, it seems 'Allah' created hell. And I can say that only the mind of a complete psychopath could create such a place. (Hint: Muhammed)

"They will long to leave the Fire, but never will they leave there from; and theirs will be a lasting torment." (Quran 5:37)

"…And they will never leave of the Fire." (Quran 2:167)

"Surely, those who disbelieve and did wrong; God will not forgive them, nor will He guide them to any way except the way of Hell, to dwell therein forever." (Quran 4:168-169)

"Surely, God has cursed the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a flaming Fire wherein they will abide for ever." (Quran 33:64)

"And whosoever disobeys God and His Messenger, then surely, for him is the fire of Hell, he shall dwell therein forever." (Quran 72:23)

Reminds me of ISIS burning people alive. 'Allah' must be so proud of ISIS!

To see what Allah does, watch this:

WATCH: ISIS Hanging & Burning Alive Four Iraqi Men - Graphic Video - ISIS Burning Video - Uncensored (Warning: this is horrible and I could not watch it!)

Except that Allah does this to people FOREVER!!!!!! You don't die!

And it doesn't stop there! Just burning people alive isn't enough.

Qur’an 22:19-22 “for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods”

This is how a monster thinks. It sickens me. ALL true Muslims think that non-believers deserve this. I do not think that Charles Manson deserves this! Is this really what Islam has created? Well over a BILLION people who are OK with this unspeakable torture being done to the rest of mankind?

It is terrible.
Thank

This verse and other verses in which the word enemy of God
He was flexible term
I do not believe in God, does that mean that I am the enemy of God??????
it must define the word enemy of God
Who is the enemy of God
Is it Christian or a Jew or of other faiths
Are questions worth answering them Muslims
If I am the enemy of God, it means that God incarnated
That's why I think that the enemy of God, the term is an important pillar in spreading hatred among humans

Praise be to God, prayer and peace be upon the Messenger of Allah and his family and companions and guided Companions.
But after some local newspapers published a statement by some people saying that reads: (We do not let hostility to Jews and Judaism We respect all religions), in speaking about the situation in the Middle East after the Jewish aggression against the Arabs. As this speech regarding Jews and Judaism contrary to explicit Holy Book and the Sunnah, and contrary to the Islamic faith, a comment feared to be deceived by some people, I saw the alarm on what is in it is wrong Nsaha God and His servants .. I say:
Quran and Sunnah and the consensus of the Muslims have indicated that Muslims must be returned unbelievers of Jews and Christians and other infidels, and to beware of friendliness and they make parents, also told God in his book set, which is not done wrong in the hands of his successor download
from Hakim Hamid, that the Jews and the polytheists are the most hostile to the believers.
This talk is a Muslim and has a site on the net
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Old 05-13-2016, 01:13 AM
 
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Trhabon by the enemy of God
This verse from the Koran
This verse from the Koran
We read the term enemy of God
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Old 05-13-2016, 02:33 AM
 
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Still on the theme of hell:

4:115 And whoever acts hostilely to the messenger after the guidance has become manifest to him, and follows other than way of the believers, We will turm him to that to which he has (himself) turned and make him enter hell; and it is an evil resort.

This is the hell which the guilty called a lie.
55:43
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Old 05-13-2016, 03:25 AM
 
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Still on the theme of hell:

4:115 And whoever acts hostilely to the messenger after the guidance has become manifest to him, and follows other than way of the believers, We will turm him to that to which he has (himself) turned and make him enter hell; and it is an evil resort.

This is the hell which the guilty called a lie.
55:43
On the theme of Hell,
I noted there are 312 verses in the Quran that has hell-laden-verses.

One will note all these 312 verses relating to "Hell" are directly and indirectly [even when it is a threat or warning to Muslims] related to the condemnation of non-Muslims for no better nor justifiable reasons [based on basic human rights] other than non-Muslims merely do not believe in Allah and Muhammad for various good natural reasons.

312 verses relating to Hell which are directly and indirectly related to the condemnation of non-Muslims are too barbaric especially in the context of a holy book which is claimed to be a religion of peace.

The irony is; while the Quran bashes non-Muslims left right and center without good human reasons, non-Muslims are condemned for bashing Muslims [not true] when non-Muslims critique such unilateral condemnations by Allah in the Quran.
It that human justice?

Non-Muslims do not choose to be born as non-Muslim but as human beings.
What is worst is they are born automatically as punching bags for a 1,400 years holy book [Quran] waiting to bash them upon appearing from the womb of their mothers.
Where is the compassion for the innocent victims?

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Old 05-13-2016, 06:56 AM
 
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I do not believe in God, does that mean that I am the enemy of God??????
In reality, no, because there is no god.

But in the minds of Muslims, yes. I have learned that Muslims think you deserve to burn in hell forever if you do not believe in their allah. Their thinking is that allah has warned you that unless you submit to him you will burn in hell (are his enemy). So, since you have been warned and choose not to submit to allah....you deserve the endless torture allah gives you.

Even worse, Muslims think allah's warning means love from allah.

It is like a mafia hitman saying if you do not join the mafia he will kill you. That threat should make you want to join the mafia and love the mafia hitman for his warning. This is how Muslims think.

This is a very dangerous mindset and has led to millions and millions of murders by Muslims. And, like the mafia, they have different sects that fight each other. This means millions and millions more murders by Muslims....of other Muslims.

People who stand against terrorism and mass rape and hate and torture and genocide and pedophilia are the ones who will refuse to submit to the god that promotes all these things. Yet they are the ones that Islam says should go to hell.

We can see all this in action today by looking at Europe and we can look at history to see past examples.
As Muslim population grows, what can happen to a society? | Examiner.com

The iron hold that Islam has on over a billion humans is impossible for me to understand.
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Old 05-13-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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Still on the theme of hell:

4:115 And whoever acts hostilely to the messenger after the guidance has become manifest to him, and follows other than way of the believers, We will turm him to that to which he has (himself) turned and make him enter hell; and it is an evil resort.

This is the hell which the guilty called a lie.
55:43
However, Muhammed can act hostilely. If Muhammed attacks nonbelievers that is good, but if nonbelievers try to protect themselves...that makes them an enemy of allah/muhammed. Then Muhammed/allah likes to slaughter them.

Islam is all about threats from Muhammed/allah, but THINK!!! The human mind CANNOT work this way. If I went up to Khalif and put a gun to his head and demanded that he stop believing in allah and start believing in Scientology (as an example) ....could he do this? Of course not. Belief does not come in an instant from a death threat. Or the threat of endless burning in hell. "BELIEVE THIS OR DIE" is the way of Islam.

Allah's Messenger called Ali [and said]: “Proceed on and do not look about until Allah grants you victory,” and Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: “Allah's Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?” Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: ”Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger…” (Sahih Muslim 5917)

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them (Quran 9:5)

"The Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives" (Bukhari 46:717)
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:32 PM
 
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(64:9) [Think of] the time when He shall gather you all together unto the Day of the [Last] Gathering - that Day of Loss and Gain! For, as for him who shall have believed in God and done what is just and right, He will [on that Day] efface his bad deeds, and will admit him into gardens through which running waters flow, therein to abide beyond the count of time: that will be a triumph supreme!
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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[31.22] And whoever submits himself wholly to Allah and he is the doer of good (to others), he indeed has taken hold of the firmest thing upon which one can lay hold; and Allah's is the end of affairs.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:45 PM
 
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[17.81] And say: The truth has come and the falsehood has vanished; surely falsehood is a vanishing (thing).

[17.82] And We reveal of the Qur'an that which is a healing and a mercy to the believers, and it adds only to the perdition of the unjust.

[17.83] And when We bestow favor on man, he turns aside and behaves proudly, and when evil afflicts him, he is despairing.

[17.84] Say: Every one acts according to his manner; but your Lord knows best who is best guided in the path.
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Old 05-13-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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(64:9) [Think of] the time when He shall gather you all together unto the Day of the [Last] Gathering - that Day of Loss and Gain! For, as for him who shall have believed in God and done what is just and right, He will [on that Day] efface his bad deeds, and will admit him into gardens through which running waters flow, therein to abide beyond the count of time: that will be a triumph supreme!
So, people who submit to allah's evil will have an orgy of food, wine and women.

Quran 78:31 Surely for the pious there is a place of triumph, Gardens enclosed and vineyards, And youthful virgins, like of age, And a full cup (of wine).

Quran 58:52 And beside them will be chaste females (virgins) restraining their glances only for their husbands, (and) of equal ages.

Quran 2:25 And give glad tidings to those who believe and do righteous good deeds, that for them will be Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise). Every time they will be provided with a fruit therefrom, they will say: "This is what we were provided with before," and they will be given things in resemblance (i.e. in the same form but different in taste) and they shall have therein Azwajun Mutahharatun (purified mates or wives), (having no menses, stools, urine, etc.) and they will abide therein forever.

"Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, "There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them." - Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34

Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.
Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur'an, p. 351

What kind of God would grant his followers a salvation that consists of him (God) looking on as those he has "saved" are engaged in one perpetual, eternal orgy? And what view must one have of a God who would delight in such perversion? "Oh hey, Allah… uh… don't mind me! Just enjoying the "gifts" you gave me, if you know what I mean. Heh, heh…" How can Muslims even imagine themselves engaging in such an orgy, while Allah looks on? Or is Allah not present during this ordeal? Or do Muslims imagine Allah would "join in the fun?" Or how should we imagine Allah's role in this? Is this perhaps all just a show, maybe to satisfy Allah? Could this "paradise" actually just be Allah's porno? Ah, I think I'm beginning to see: it's not really ABOUT ending up spending eternity with Allah… it's not really about relationship with him, is it? Because he seems conspicuously absent in their vision of paradise. And this whole thing about Allah offering his followers virgins in the first place, seems about as legit as a shady man in a windowless van handing out free candies to unsuspecting children. I'm extremely saddened that Muslims would trust a deity like Allah,

Those who choose to turn their backs on evil will be punished:

Quran 64:10
But the ones who disbelieved and denied Our verses - those are the companions of the Fire, abiding eternally therein; and wretched is the destination.

The punishment is not for people who rape and murder and have sex with children and own and trade slaves and sell women. These people get that orgy that allah gives. The people who are horribly tortured for all time are the ones who refuse to follow evil.
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