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Old 09-01-2014, 06:23 PM
 
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I forgot to ask. Who is Malick? I had never come across the name before and do not find anything on a google search.
Caliph al-Malik is believed to have built the "Dome of the Rock"
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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I forgot to ask. Who is Malick? I had never come across the name before and do not find anything on a google search.
My mistake, bad spelling,

Abd al-Malik
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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We have to realize at this point in time was the separation, of what would later become Sunni-Shia

Muhammed lift no successor and after his death, probably by poisoning, Ali, and Bakr vied for the position.

This is another story altogether, so I won't get into it now.

Anyways there are now two major factions of islam, 3 counting the muscavites.( Bad spelling again)

Malik left writings the Sunni strongly disavow, and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about muhammed.

However, what he left is part of the earliest sources of islam
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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We have to realize at this point in time was the separation, of what would later become Sunni-Shia

Muhammed lift no successor and after his death, probably by poisoning, Ali, and Bakr vied for the position.

This is another story altogether, so I won't get into it now.

Anyways there are now two major factions of islam, 3 counting the muscavites.( Bad spelling again)

Malik left writings the Sunni strongly disavow, and wrote some pretty nasty stuff about muhammed.

However, what he left is part of the earliest sources of islam
As Abd al-Maliki was the 5th Umayyad Caliph it is kind of difficult to contemplate he would have had any Shi'ite tendencies.
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:23 AM
 
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As Abd al-Maliki was the 5th Umayyad Caliph it is kind of difficult to contemplate he would have had any Shi'ite tendencies.
I am not saying he had Shi'ite tendencies, so much as he had much to say that is not agreed with by Sunni.

Considering Sunni is the largest, I can see where he would get flak.

He also considered himself "The Mahood".
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:23 AM
 
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Why is it that Muslims acknowledge all prophets who have existed throughout history from the Torah and Bible, but then it seems like they admire and love Muhammad more than all others it seems like. Why can't you follow Jesus (Isa) instead of Muhammad? I know many Muslims tries to follow Muhammad's role model, but why not Jesus role model?
Jesus's prophecies are recorded in only one book: The Holy Bible. His prophecies completely contradict the Koran.
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:29 AM
 
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One major problem, is Islam claims all these people, and hides their actual work, just name dropping, but "Don't look into it."

Malik had an apparent Christian earlier life, not muslim as claimed.
Little writing survived from him, but the first writings came from his era.

Also we do have actual coins from him, struck during his era, with the cross on them.
I am sure you can find pictures online, I will look, I have them in books.
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:31 AM
 
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Jesus's prophecies are recorded in only one book: The Holy Bible. His prophecies completely contradict the Koran.
The bible is 64 books, not one, and it was written long before the Qur'an so any contradiction is the other way around.

Islam was plagerized from Judism, Christianity, Zoestranism, and Greek medical.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:12 AM
 
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The bible is 64 books, not one, and it was written long before the Qur'an so any contradiction is the other way around.

Islam was plagerized from Judism, Christianity, Zoestranism, and Greek medical.
66 books not including the Apocrypha *.My belief is that the Koran was given to Mohammed by an angel just as claimed, but that angel was not Gabriel, but another angel falsely claiming to be Gabriel.

* You are perhaps combining the two books of Samuel and Chronicles as is the case in some Bibles.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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66 books not including the Apocrypha. My belief is that the Koran was given to Mohammed by an angel just as claimed, but that angel was not Gabriel, but another angel falsely claiming to be Gabriel.
Belief's are one thing, facts are another.

The Qur'an is from the 9th century, not the 7th.

There are almost endless reasons why it did not come from any God.
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