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Old 05-31-2013, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Stuck on the East Coast, hoping to head West
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That has to be one of the most de-moralizing things I've ever heard of. I'd do my best to find another job.

In my job, we are assigned to work with certain clients. We ended up losing a client (no fault of our own); the director told us that we had to interview for other internal jobs. Hard to explain, but it was similar to what your friend is describing. It was awful. I was in a position where I happened to be working two jobs so I was okay pushing back. I declined to interview and told them to do what they thought was best for the company. They ended up keeping me.

My husband works for a family-owned business and they had him justify his salary a few years ago. He had to prove, through research, that he was worth what they paid him. The implication was that if they could find someone cheaper, he'd have to take a paycut or get fired. What jerks.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:58 PM
 
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I'd start searching for another job. Seriously, that's disgusting and demoralizing.
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Old 06-07-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Planet Woof
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Well, it happened today. He was called in, given a ''separation packet'', escorted to his desk, escorted to the door. Not one person said goodbye or good luck or even acknowledged that he was going. Out the door, just like that, after almost 5 years of service.
He has no idea who the others were. There is no closure here and it's like he never even existed there. So sad on every level. 64 and looking for a job in this economy.
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Old 06-09-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: CA
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Default happened @ a union based school district in CA

I was deemed "too valuable" to be allowed the two weeks off for training that I was expected to fill in for others AND do my own job. The union rep called it cleaning house and to go with my gut". My gut said I was not going to get a fair break on this one. Wash rinse repeat.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Well, it happened today. He was called in, given a ''separation packet'', escorted to his desk, escorted to the door. Not one person said goodbye or good luck or even acknowledged that he was going. Out the door, just like that, after almost 5 years of service.
He has no idea who the others were. There is no closure here and it's like he never even existed there. So sad on every level. 64 and looking for a job in this economy.
Almost 5 years service is nothing. Closure? Are you serious? Maybe after 35 or 40 years.

64 years old means he entered the workforce between 1967 and 1971. Even if he was drafted and lost 2 years he should have qualified for some sort of pension or several pensions over the years. He never held a job for 10 years or 5 years after 1988? His retirement accounts over the years, social security, and close to Medicare, home should be paid for, why doesn't he just retire and get some part time retail job if he wants to work? I am close to his age but I save my sympathy for the youngsters with the debt and few prospects.

Back to the OP. If this is the result of a merger/takeover/sale how else would they know who to keep. I am sure they weren't impressed by the previous management to do this. New management means new culture and how good a worker you were under the old management also means nothing.

OR

You can start your own business and do everything your way. You will find that your employees will still find something to complain about.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:46 AM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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It so nauseating when posters on here tell people to start their own business like it's something easy to do
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Almost 5 years service is nothing. Closure? Are you serious? Maybe after 35 or 40 years.

64 years old means he entered the workforce between 1967 and 1971. Even if he was drafted and lost 2 years he should have qualified for some sort of pension or several pensions over the years. .
Private-sector pension coverage fell by half over two decades | Economic Policy Institute

What century are you in-13% of private sector employees are elgible for pensions.

When we passed the US median lifespan of 63 which existed when FDR passed SS, and when Health Care costs started being measured in 5 digits annually, pensions became an impossible burden which would have killed almost all private sector employment.
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Well, it happened today. He was called in, given a ''separation packet'', escorted to his desk, escorted to the door. Not one person said goodbye or good luck or even acknowledged that he was going. .
This I find disgusting. When I started working professionally in the 80s, if you quit, you served out your 2 weeks. Employers were not afraid of sabatage, they expected you to act professionally, they treated employees as if they could trust them, and inevitably, they were correct. Today the lawyers have scared corps into being terrorized by the prospect of someone serving out a few weeks knowing their end work date. It's insane. It does nothing other than demoralize the remaining employees. (If I were in the latter group, I'd be looking at trying to get a job with their fierest competitor, sensing blood in the water if there were too many defections.)

I have no issue with the new team cherry-picking whom to keep, but to treat the others as if they require police supervision is crazy. They should have set an end date a few weeks out, known to the employee at the point the decision was reached, with the separation package dependent upon proper work being completed in the interim, and of course, no sabatage.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:02 PM
 
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Today at my friend's workplace they announced that anyone who ''deliberately'' fails the interview will not get the severance package!
Now how they are going to ''prove'' that is beyond me! I think this place is beyond evil and I hope the ''rejectees''get together for a class action threat.
Wow, that place sucks. I would hope they would choose me for the severance package, as it sounds like it would be terrible to work there after this incident.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:22 PM
 
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It so nauseating when posters on here tell people to start their own business like it's something easy to do
For real. Most businesses fail miserably in the first year.

I was lucky enough to sell mine and get a job out of it. The brutal truth is that if you're not smart enough, and dynamic enough, to win the interview process, you won't have the tenacity, smarts or capability to run your own business.
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