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I applied for a job, did 2 phones interviews, and 2 skype interviews. They were fine with no in person since it was out of state. Throughout the process they asked me my desired salary and I did research on the COL in the new area, plus the average pay for the position in the area. Keep in mind I HAD to provide a salary range. They said if you don't provide it then thank you for applying. It had it on the actual application and they even asked me in an interview. I stated in the 60s, depending on the total compensation package offered (benefits, cost of insurance etc...).
Got a call yesterday saying Congratulations!!!! We'd like to offer you the job at a rate of $37,200!! They said when can you start. I literally couldn't speak for a few seconds. I asked if they recalled my asking for the 60s and they said, "Well $37.2k is just the salary, when you take all the benefits into account you are being paid well in to the 60s and even higher!!".
I never knew some companies when they ask you what salary you want, want you to include all the cost of insurance they are covering etc... If this was the case I should have asked for the low 100s. And this is a mid career type of position for a somewhat specialized skill. It's not an entry level position at all and actually has the word senior in the title. It is a lower cost of living area but people in the area are making the 60s and up at this position.
This is ridiculous! Has anyone else ever heard of such a thing?
My company, when short term incentives are given out, gives an all-in number of how much they pay to have me employed here...salary, health, 401K, etc, but I think that is to give visibility to they cost of an employee, that is never a negotiating point. Salary is the negotiation.
My company, when short term incentives are given out, gives an all-in number of how much they pay to have me employed here...salary, health, 401K, etc, but I think that is to give visibility to they cost of an employee, that is never a negotiating point. Salary is the negotiation.
Seriously, I felt like I was in an alternate universe where I had been looking at salary wrong my whole life. Until I realized they were the crazy ones in the alternate wacky universe.
"Well $37.2k is just the salary, when you take all the benefits into account you are being paid well in to the 60s and even higher!!".
I'd bet that's not even true. At most places, a 10% retirement match is good. That would be $4,000. They'd have to be paying nearly your whole premium for a very expensive health plan to make up the remainder of $60,000. Very few jobs paying that little come with anything like that kind of a health plan.
I'd bet that's not even true. At most places, a 10% retirement match is good. That would be $4,000. They'd have to be paying nearly your whole premium for a very expensive health plan to make up the remainder of $60,000. Very few jobs paying that little come with anything like that kind of a health plan.
It's this huge company too and in the top 150 companies in the US. How can all these people be taking such little pay? Or maybe they just wanted me, but only very cheaply.
You should have asked if that offer was in 1980 dollars. Yea they start talking up their benefits when they lowball you on salary or they start finding excuses to discount your experience and convince you that you are entry level. I'd tell them no thanks.
When I read your post, I thought I'd read the amount wrong. You stated in the 60s and they tried to offer you 37?? I would have laughed them off the phone - especially when they went into the bit about benefits. You said "depending on" not "including." Just wow....
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