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Are you sure the issue isn't the misdemeanor? If you call your references and feel they are being honest with you, I'd more likely believe it's the arrest record.
Seriously, don't ever use somebody as a reference without their permission. The weirdness of calling them a year after you last saw them pales in comparison to the weirdness of them getting a call from a stranger asking them to recommend you for a job they didn't know you applied to and not being told anything about the job. Plus it's an imposition; the polite thing to do is ask first.
Seriously, don't ever use somebody as a reference without their permission. The weirdness of calling them a year after you last saw them pales in comparison to the weirdness of them getting a call from a stranger asking them to recommend you for a job they didn't know you applied to and not being told anything about the job. Plus it's an imposition; the polite thing to do is ask first.
I've used these people at least once before as a reference, and at least once before I know they were called and gave me a good word. They're program managers from previous jobs. I assumed that most managers consider it normal to get phone calls about previous employees. The idea that I should "stay in touch" with former managers seems weird to me. I don't expect them to consider me a friend, especially if I quit their company. But who else can I use from those companies? Only other option is using coworkers and pretending like they were managers. But that's lying.
you call them first to let them know, to make sure the contact number is still good... that they still like you.
no one stays in touch? fine, but you are just being unprofessional.
maybe you keep giving out numbers to dead lines? maybe the number is now an escort? you dont know who the number goes to because you havent used it to call up contact.
I've used these people at least once before as a reference, and at least once before I know they were called and gave me a good word. They're program managers from previous jobs. I assumed that most managers consider it normal to get phone calls about previous employees. The idea that I should "stay in touch" with former managers seems weird to me. I don't expect them to consider me a friend, especially if I quit their company. But who else can I use from those companies? Only other option is using coworkers and pretending like they were managers. But that's lying.
Really. Yet, you expect them to just give you a glowing review? You don't think it would be weird to be called on to discuss someone they may not have any contact in years, or even remember?
For personal references (where you say "references provided upon request" on your resume or they ask for 3 professional reference on the application) - You never put a name down without first contacting them and making sure its okay. It doesn't matter if you haven't talked to them for years. But if you feel like you want to use them as a reference, send them an email every so often. If you know their birthday, send them a note wishing them a happy birthday. Or if you use Linkedin - endorse them for skills every so often. Just something to keep your name fresh in their mind.
Quite honestly, if some company called me and said one of my old colleagues/staff has used me as a reference, I'd be a bit annoyed. Not because they haven't kept in touch, but because I'd feel like I was blindsided as I may not be able to recall my experience with them. Had they reached out to me first, I may have just asked what they would like me to highlight so I can help out (or just told them I'm not a good reference for them). In either case, they know what they're getting from me.
All that said - I agree with others. You haven't given it enough time. You were told on Tuesday that they are putting in the recommendation to hire. Who knows when that was sent. Let's say it was sent on Wednesday. That's only been three business days.
I've used these people at least once before as a reference, and at least once before I know they were called and gave me a good word. They're program managers from previous jobs. I assumed that most managers consider it normal to get phone calls about previous employees. The idea that I should "stay in touch" with former managers seems weird to me. I don't expect them to consider me a friend, especially if I quit their company. But who else can I use from those companies? Only other option is using coworkers and pretending like they were managers. But that's lying.
I'm friendly with most of my former supervisors, but I wouldn't use one as a reference without first checking in with them. Even if they have agreed to be a reference in the past, I still give them a heads-up about my job search and ask if it's OK to use them once again. I would also tell them from whom they would be hearing and what the position is. It is also fine to use a former co-worker and designate them as such on your list of references. I have used former co-workers as references and vice versa. A former co-worker recently asked to use me as a reference and I asked her to send me the job description and tell me about her interview so I would be prepared to give her an appropriate reference.
It's also common to chat with references (and vice versa) about anything you want them to be sure to mention when they speak with the prospective employer.
They aren't going to hire someone with a criminal record, no matter how minor, when they have equally qualified applicants who are clean. Either find a polite way to inquire about the status or move on.
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