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Everybody has heard about Jewish Zionism but people rarely bring up the essentially non-existent term Arab Zionism. It is remarkable how little most people know about the histories of Western Asia and North Africa or the regions collectively referred to by there now Eurocentric term “the Middle East”. Most people even perhaps most Palestinian Arabs and Jewish Israelis are not aware of the Arab migrations of the 7th-14th centuries. Prior to the 7th century the current countries of the Levant: Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and Western Iraq did not have an Arab majority. The countries of Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia did not have an Arab majority until the 13th-14th centuries. These facts are very well documented. The word Palestine was in fact resented by the people living in the land of southern Canaan do to the fact that the word Palestine came from the Roman rulers that designated the term for the region. There were many Jewish and Samaritan rebellions (descendants of Ancient Israelites) to both Roman and later Byzantine rule. Jews did not lose the majority of the regions demographic composition until the 3rd -4th Centuries. The Jews even managed to gain brief independence from the Roman Empire in the second century following the Third Jewish-Roman war. The only reason perhaps why the Jews have vastly larger numbers than the related Samaritan community is because Jews have been much more allowing of converts into there community historically. There are vastly different peoples and cultures in Western Asia and northern Africa. In the “Middle East” the main ethnic groups are Arabs, Persians, Turks, Kurds, Berbers, Israeli/Jews, Assyrians, Armenians, Greeks, Azeris, Mandeans, Circassins, Shabaks, Roma, Georgians, Arameans, Mhallami, Yazidis, Samaritans, and Chechens. Why are the Arab Migrations never brought up in conversations about Zionism?
This thread is about Jewish and Arab history non the less an aspect of Judaism. Understanding history is vital to understanding any religion. This post is meant to discuss the history of Judaism and Middle Eastern Semetic and non-Semetic peoples alike. I suppose it is not a spiritual question but it is very much related to Judaism. The history of the Jews and there geographic roots is essenial to understanding Judaism. This is a very Kosher discussion.
Hopefully you can show how this relates to Judaism. Which is what this forum is about.
If this is not connected in any way to Judaism the thread will be deleted.
The OP is covering Sephardic and Mizarhi Jews so IMHO it does fit within the realm of this forum. Those of us who are from these groups looked for a return to the area of the original 12 tribes which includes the region of the mountain called Tsi-un which Jerusalem is near. The Ashkenazis made it into a synonym and currently their version is seen as the correct definition for all.
Everybody has heard about Jewish Zionism but people rarely bring up the essentially non-existent term Arab Zionism. It is remarkable how little most people know about the histories of Western Asia and North Africa or the regions collectively referred to by there now Eurocentric term “the Middle East”. Most people even perhaps most Palestinian Arabs and Jewish Israelis are not aware of the Arab migrations of the 7th-14th centuries. Prior to the 7th century the current countries of the Levant: Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and Western Iraq did not have an Arab majority. The countries of Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia did not have an Arab majority until the 13th-14th centuries. These facts are very well documented. The word Palestine was in fact resented by the people living in the land of southern Canaan do to the fact that the word Palestine came from the Roman rulers that designated the term for the region. There were many Jewish and Samaritan rebellions (descendants of Ancient Israelites) to both Roman and later Byzantine rule. Jews did not lose the majority of the regions demographic composition until the 3rd -4th Centuries. The Jews even managed to gain brief independence from the Roman Empire in the second century following the Third Jewish-Roman war. The only reason perhaps why the Jews have vastly larger numbers than the related Samaritan community is because Jews have been much more allowing of converts into there community historically. There are vastly different peoples and cultures in Western Asia and northern Africa. In the “Middle East” the main ethnic groups are Arabs, Persians, Turks, Kurds, Berbers, Israeli/Jews, Assyrians, Armenians, Greeks, Azeris, Mandeans, Circassins, Shabaks, Roma, Georgians, Arameans, Mhallami, Yazidis, Samaritans, and Chechens. Why are the Arab Migrations never brought up in conversations about Zionism?
Jewish and Arab and vice versa are NOT mutually exclusive. There are Arab Jews. There are also even Palestinean Jews.
The Jews that lived under the British Mandate were Palestinian Jews.
I assume the term Arab Jews refers to the Jews that lived in Arab countries although usually that is not the term that is used.
And the Jews that live in Palestinean lands still today are Palestinean Jews.
There are plenty Arab Jews in the same manner that there are Arab Christians and Arab Muslims. All have the same shared Arab customs, cultures, and traditions, but they may have different faiths and different religions.
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