Where can I find a list of anti-Jewish proselytic rhetoric? (believe, Catholics)
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I am looking for a list of the various beliefs, attitudes, statements that have been used to target Jews for conversion, and how the Jewish experts can critique these assertions in order to counter the proselytic efforts.
I am nonreligious/unaffiliated, but I find myself vulnerable to these anti-Jewish beliefs, however unconscious. One time, I was walking along the college campus, and some Christian students were displaying two tables. One table had a sign labelled "Religion", and the other table had a sign labelled "Jesus". At the "Religion" table, the purpose was to persuade students that "religion is something that makes you do over and over again. It is filled with meaningless, laborious rituals with no promise of salvation." At the "Jesus" table, the purpose was to persuade students that "Jesus comes and saves" and then offers confectionery treats. I'm sure the students did NOT really mean to be deceitful or harmful; they're only expressing what they believe in. It's a public university, and there's freedom of speech and religion. However, that picture created a powerful impression in my nonreligious mind, thereby creating a prejudiced view of both Catholics and Jews. In any case, I am wondering if Jewish student groups have done a similar sort of activity, in which it would give Jews the upper hand and balance out the viewpoints.
I am looking for a list of the various beliefs, attitudes, statements that have been used to target Jews for conversion, and how the Jewish experts can critique these assertions in order to counter the proselytic efforts.
I am nonreligious/unaffiliated, but I find myself vulnerable to these anti-Jewish beliefs, however unconscious. One time, I was walking along the college campus, and some Christian students were displaying two tables. One table had a sign labelled "Religion", and the other table had a sign labelled "Jesus". At the "Religion" table, the purpose was to persuade students that "religion is something that makes you do over and over again. It is filled with meaningless, laborious rituals with no promise of salvation." At the "Jesus" table, the purpose was to persuade students that "Jesus comes and saves" and then offers confectionery treats. I'm sure the students did NOT really mean to be deceitful or harmful; they're only expressing what they believe in. It's a public university, and there's freedom of speech and religion. However, that picture created a powerful impression in my nonreligious mind, thereby creating a prejudiced view of both Catholics and Jews. In any case, I am wondering if Jewish student groups have done a similar sort of activity, in which it would give Jews the upper hand and balance out the viewpoints.
I can not speak for any Jews as I am not Jewish. But in my nearly 3/4 of a century walking this earth I never had a Jew attempt to convert me to Judaism. Not even Jewish relatives that I have.
From what I understand it is very difficult for a non-Jew to convert and people are discouraged from doing so. One of the first things an enquirer will be told, there is no reason to convert as a non-Jew can reach heaven much easier as a non-Jew.
Jews do not demean their beliefs by seeking converts.
I am certain any member here will correct me if I am in error.
I am looking for a list of the various beliefs, attitudes, statements that have been used to target Jews for conversion, and how the Jewish experts can critique these assertions in order to counter the proselytic efforts.
I am nonreligious/unaffiliated, but I find myself vulnerable to these anti-Jewish beliefs, however unconscious. One time, I was walking along the college campus, and some Christian students were displaying two tables. One table had a sign labelled "Religion", and the other table had a sign labelled "Jesus". At the "Religion" table, the purpose was to persuade students that "religion is something that makes you do over and over again. It is filled with meaningless, laborious rituals with no promise of salvation." At the "Jesus" table, the purpose was to persuade students that "Jesus comes and saves" and then offers confectionery treats. I'm sure the students did NOT really mean to be deceitful or harmful; they're only expressing what they believe in. It's a public university, and there's freedom of speech and religion. However, that picture created a powerful impression in my nonreligious mind, thereby creating a prejudiced view of both Catholics and Jews. In any case, I am wondering if Jewish student groups have done a similar sort of activity, in which it would give Jews the upper hand and balance out the viewpoints.
The closest thing we have is Chabad or Jews for Judaism, but both groups only work within Judaism. Jews for Judaism works to keep Jews Jewish while Chabad works towards helping us become more Torah observant.
But these are not proselytizing groups, and we don't try to "get the upper hand" over people.
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I can not speak for any Jews as I am not Jewish. But in my nearly 3/4 of a century walking this earth I never had a Jew attempt to convert me to Judaism. Not even Jewish relatives that I have.
From what I understand it is very difficult for a non-Jew to convert and people are discouraged from doing so. One of the first things an enquirer will be told, there is no reason to convert as a non-Jew can reach heaven much easier as a non-Jew.
Jews do not demean their beliefs by seeking converts.
I am certain any member here will correct me if I am in error.
No error there.
The rabbi I converted under "forgot" about our first three meetings, and we discussed the difficulties I would face, both while converting and after I became a Jew, many times. We discussed it again at the beit din during the final steps of my conversion.
But these are not proselytizing groups, and we don't try to "get the upper hand" over people.
I think that atheists-who-are-raised-as-Christians carry a similar attitude in regards to religion, particularly militant ones. Instead of saying that Christianity is the Truth, these types of atheists may declare that Atheism is more rational or truthful or whatever gives them the upper hand. In a way, it's a sort of atheistic proselytism.
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No error there.
The rabbi I converted under "forgot" about our first three meetings, and we discussed the difficulties I would face, both while converting and after I became a Jew, many times. We discussed it again at the beit din during the final steps of my conversion.
I think that atheists-who-are-raised-as-Christians carry a similar attitude in regards to religion, particularly militant ones. Instead of saying that Christianity is the Truth, these types of atheists may declare that Atheism is more rational or truthful or whatever gives them the upper hand. In a way, it's a sort of atheistic proselytism.
That makes no sense in response to what I said. I said they're not doing that.
Your profile says you're male. In Christian families, boys are circumcised for religious (particularly if you are part of the Coptic Orthodox branch) or health reasons. How did you get circumcised again? Can you get circumcised a second time?
You go through a "mock" circumcision where a drop of blood is taken from the scar of the origional circumcision to fulfill the ritual requirement. It is called a hatafat dam brit.
As people have said before, there are many counter-missionary Jewish groups, primarily run by Orthodox-affiliated associations, such as Jews for Judaism. Here's an example: Judaism Online
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