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Old 05-11-2015, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Hmm...I think ethnicity covers 'race'.

I understand why my identifying with being a 'human' is attractive to me. it removes any confusion.

Thanks for your answers.
Ethnicity can be based on race, but isn't required to be so.

An ethnic group can also be based on heritage, ancestry, shared origins, language, ideology, religion, language, etc.
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:12 AM
 
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According to the U.S. government, Hispanics are racially "Caucasian" and ethnically "Hispanic." These terms are definitely not one and the same.
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Old 05-11-2015, 08:11 AM
 
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According to the U.S. government, Hispanics are racially "Caucasian" and ethnically "Hispanic." These terms are definitely not one and the same.
Quoting the U.S. government as an authority on English does not add to the credibility of a claim.
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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Thank you for the responses folks. Shalom!
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Old 05-11-2015, 03:00 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Quoting the U.S. government as an authority on English does not add to the credibility of a claim.
lol.

We are all human beings and that is a race thing.



The Human Race.

Ethnicity is secondary and has consistently proven to being a stumbling block toward tolerance and understanding and equality and unity. There is no reason why one cannot celebrate culture. It is when personal bias insists itself better than other cultures that the stumbling begins.

One People - Many Peoples.

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Old 05-11-2015, 07:06 PM
 
Location: US
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According to the U.S. government, Hispanics are racially "Caucasian" and ethnically "Hispanic." These terms are definitely not one and the same.
not Mexicans...
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Old 07-05-2015, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I was curious as to if religious adherence affects one's ability to remain a "Jew"?

I think it is every thing, almost everything.


Maybe a Jew remains a Jew if he becomes a Christian who calls the Torah a strange thing, but by non adherence, he marries a Gentiles and it becomes the end of him. From the moment he calls the Torah a strange thing, it is the beginning of the end.{I THINK/JUST MAYBE}


I think following God and being his people don't have much to do with blood, except that in the end, God will come to Jews first, and they will be exalted JUST because of blood, that is, if they are still Jews, a particular people who are persecuted BECAUSE of their adherence in following the commandments of God.

I don't think God ever exalted anyone just because of blood, but that they became a peculiar people and what made them different than gentiles is their adherence, so what happens to a Jew if he refuses everything that is called of God or that is worshipped?

Then you take a gentile who wasn't even given the law, and the gentile loves the Torah and strives to keep the commandments of God.

Then if God treats the Jew better just because of blood, it wouldn't seem justified.


Just my opinions, trying to figure out if there is anyone else in this forum but me. LOL.
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Old 07-07-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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I think it is every thing, almost everything.
Nope. Vis-a-vis being a Jew, it is nothing. If you're born a Jew, you're a Jew. If you convert according to the rules, you're a Jew. If one of the above subsequently takes out an ad in the New York Times renouncing any affiliation with the Jewish people and denouncing the Jewish religion, she/he/it is a nutcase Jew who took out an ad in the New York Times.
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Old 07-07-2015, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Nope. Vis-a-vis being a Jew, it is nothing. If you're born a Jew, you're a Jew. IF you convert according to the rules, you're a Jew.

''IF you convert according to the rules?''


That's what I mean. If conversion makes one a Jew, then it is about what you practice. Born a Jew is a Jew, but like I said, if he continues and then marries a gentile, calls the Torah a strange thing, wouldn't it be the beginning of the end of him?

His family aint gonna stay Jewish are they?
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Old 07-07-2015, 04:00 PM
 
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''IF you convert according to the rules?''


That's what I mean. If conversion makes one a Jew, then it is about what you practice. Born a Jew is a Jew, but like I said, if he continues and then marries a gentile, calls the Torah a strange thing, wouldn't it be the beginning of the end of him?

His family aint gonna stay Jewish are they?
Quite true. Actually, if his wife wasn't Jewish, there's no staying Jewish; the wife and children are non-Jewish to start. But he's still Jewish. Except, as you correctly point out, it doesn't count for much.
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