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Old 02-16-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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^^^maybe we should get more Kansans on welfare so we can be in as good shape as Missouri. (Rolling eyes)

Yes, solutions take time; no economic plan shows results instantaneously. None of you who are bitching about it here care about Kansas anyway. Your only reason for posting is to find fault with Kansas because you don't like that businesses DO move across the state line - and not only for financial reasons.

I seem to recall that Missouri wasn't able to give tax refunds last year in a timely manner because they simply didn't have the money. Kansas was able to give refunds.
If Brownback's plan was working so well there would be large-scale job growth in all areas of the state across the board with strong in-migration numbers. None of this is happening. Kansas continues to rank near the top 1/5 of all states for out-migration, so that does partly explain the low unemployment rate, if people haven't already moved to where opportunities are in JOCO.
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Old 02-16-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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^ you need to take some economics classes
I have. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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Old 02-16-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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And we have this story that just appeared on my news feed:
Kansas agency considers privatization of Osawatomie State Hospital | The Kansas City Star
I like this comment the best.
"Defund it, mismanage it. Then use the fact it is floundering as an excuse to privatize it.
Medicaid, prisons, education, and so on."
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Old 02-16-2016, 03:14 PM
 
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If Brownback's plan was working so well there would be large-scale job growth in all areas of the state across the board with strong in-migration numbers. None of this is happening. Kansas continues to rank near the top 1/5 of all states for out-migration, so that does partly explain the low unemployment rate, if people haven't already moved to where opportunities are in JOCO.
It's the same with all the plains states. It's not a Kansas thing at all.


The reason for the low unemployment rate in Kansas is - PEOPLE ARE EMPLOYED! What makes you think the people leaving the state were unemployed?


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Old 02-16-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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This thread epitomizes why KC is perpetually stuck. The border war lives on through government politics, as is often cited in these forums. KS is guilty, but MO also plays this game. It lives on through the very fabric of this forum's participants. It is a daily occurrence when a driver with JO plates cuts off someone from MO or vice versa.

I'm not as familiar with other bi/tri-state metropolitan areas, but I sense KC is more divided culturally than other split cities. Sure, states compete to attract companies, but it's borderline toxic in KC. The best I can describe both states' behavior is digging up holes, paying to fill them up, and calling that progress. What happened to that cease fire bill designed to support KC instead of individual state agendas?

To the original post, I hope KCK somehow benefits from the American Royal. Downtown KCMO at least has some momentum. What does downtown KCK have going for it?
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Old 02-16-2016, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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This thread epitomizes why KC is perpetually stuck. The border war lives on through government politics, as is often cited in these forums. KS is guilty, but MO also plays this game. It lives on through the very fabric of this forum's participants. It is a daily occurrence when a driver with JO plates cuts off someone from MO or vice versa.

I'm not as familiar with other bi/tri-state metropolitan areas, but I sense KC is more divided culturally than other split cities. Sure, states compete to attract companies, but it's borderline toxic in KC. The best I can describe both states' behavior is digging up holes, paying to fill them up, and calling that progress. What happened to that cease fire bill designed to support KC instead of individual state agendas?
I live in what is basically a tri-state area (DC, Maryland, Virginia) plus Baltimore City. There is plenty of competition here, but there is also some cooperation and nobody throws around the kinds of incentives that KS (and now MO) do in the KC area. It's nothing like KC. I have also posted links showing that places like Cincinnati/Northern KY are also much more on the same page than KS/MO in the KC area.

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To the original post, I hope KCK somehow benefits from the American Royal. Downtown KCMO at least has some momentum. What does downtown KCK have going for it?
Yea, right. Do you think they would do anything for downtown KCK? All that stuff will end up out by Bonner Springs with all the other corporate welfare projects.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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No, I don't believe downtown KCK will receive a boost, but I'll keep hoping.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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None of you who are bitching about it here care about Kansas anyway. Your only reason for posting is to find fault with Kansas

2. because you don't like that businesses DO move across the state line - and not only for financial reasons.
1. Demonstrable false and easily verifiably so.

2. Businesses that move from KC to Kansas for non-financial are as rare as hen's teeth.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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1. Demonstrable false and easily verifiably so.

2. Businesses that move from KC to Kansas for non-financial are as rare as hen's teeth.
Wrong. Some businesses just prefer to be in Johnson County. For one, I know of a lot of doctor offices that moved to the Kansas side because of the cost of malpractice insurance on the Missouri side. Plus the downtown area of KCMO used to be such an awful place - ghetto, run down, unsafe at night, nothing going on - and businesses DEFINITELY preferred being in Johnson County than downtown. Now that downtown has improved, there are more businesses downtown. But let's not pretend that there weren't years where downtown was kind of a yucky place to be.


I owned a business in for almost 30 years and there is no way in hell I would have moved from Johnson County to KCMO.
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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Wrong. Some businesses just prefer to be in Johnson County. For one, I know of a lot of doctor offices that moved to the Kansas side because of the cost of malpractice insurance on the Missouri side. Plus the downtown area of KCMO used to be such an awful place - ghetto, run down, unsafe at night, nothing going on - and businesses DEFINITELY preferred being in Johnson County than downtown. Now that downtown has improved, there are more businesses downtown. But let's not pretend that there weren't years where downtown was kind of a yucky place to be.


I owned a business in for almost 30 years and there is no way in hell I would have moved from Johnson County to KCMO.
There is no point whatsoever talking about the 80s and 90s in this thread. We can all safely agree about the nature of JoCo's growth during that period, so there's nothing to talk about.

The discussion is about the last 10 years, give or take.
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