Tax for Retirees (Loudon: taxes, shop, bus)

[JOinGA]

Originally Posted by DaveinMtAiry

I kind of figured it was a city tax thing. So here is one in West Knoxville, not sure if it's within the city limits. Asking $156,000 with property taxes at around $1,400

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/house_type/41651094_zpid/145000-170000_price/557-653_mp/pricea_sort/36.029458,-83.874865,35.902191,-84.023867_rect/12_zm/

Then a similar priced home south of Knoxville with taxes reported at $564, however for '13 and '14 they bumped up to near a thousand. Someone's got to explain that one to me. I am assuming with a higher property tax comes more services such as trash removal or whatever. Still hard to justify a $1,000 increase for a retiree with no kids.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...83_rect/12_zm/

The actual property taxes for 2017 for the Kingsmore house were $824 county plus $957 city. You can check county tax here: https://www.msbpay.com/KnoxTrustee/#/SearchDetail Once you find the county tax, there is a button on the left to link to city tax, if there is any. You get fire protection and trash pickup in the city. You have to privately contract for those services in the county.

[DaveinMtAiry]

Thanks, I figured there were other services. This is very difficult to understand and I don't want to have to look up each address on your link to determine the true taxes. I guess when we get closer a realtor will help us out. The bigger question is would South Knoxville not be desirable? Seems pretty rural, which we want, but still close to the city.

[Mister 7]

[quote=Paige1;50801123]

Originally Posted by expatCA

The Hall tax will be zero % by 2020.

Man, ain’t Tennessee great? In laws live in upstate New York I’m currrently up here. The taxes are beyond insane. They are trying to phase in taxes for straws in restaurants for God’s sake. Property taxes are $5200 a year for their $150k house.

[creeksitter]

Taxes are based on past values, listing price on current or (in a speculative market) future values. Both can be a pretty inexact science unless you are looking at a home in a subdivision with rapid turnover of very similar houses. I notice the house on Neubert Springs had the taxes reduced considerably - most likely because the owners reached an age where they are eligible for a tax reduction. Then there's county only vs city + county, in the latter case you get a lot more services.

Seems pretty rural, which we want, but still close to the city

If you want rural that is close to the city then South Knoxville is very desirable in this regard.

It would help if you explained what you mean by desirable. Are you talking about "keeping up appearances"? Do you feel like there is a universal definition of desirable?

[DaveinMtAiry]

Originally Posted by creeksitter

Taxes are based on past values, listing price on current or (in a speculative market) future values. Both can be a pretty inexact science unless you are looking at a home in a subdivision with rapid turnover of very similar houses. I notice the house on Neubert Springs had the taxes reduced considerably - most likely because the owners reached an age where they are eligible for a tax reduction. Then there's county only vs city + county, in the latter case you get a lot more services.



If you want rural that is close to the city then South Knoxville is very desirable in this regard.

It would help if you explained what you mean by desirable. Are you talking about "keeping up appearances"? Do you feel like there is a universal definition of desirable?

Yeah desirable is subjective for sure. I had read West Knoxville is more desirable than East Knoxville. I took that to mean less run down homes, less crime, better schools that sort of thing. So I guess that's my definition.

[creeksitter]

run down homes

It's interesting, there are run down homes in some rural areas of west Knoxville. I'm thinking of a cluster on Wrights ferry road you pass by to get to some very desirable (imo) beautiful lakeside subdivisions. But as a whole and in proportion there are far more run down homes in South Knoxville. But I don't think you pass any run down homes on the way to the Neubert Springs house. So that could be something to consider as you evaluate a particular house.

I stated in post #11 that schools tend to be rated higher in West Knox. Though Bonny Kate school is rated highly as well.

I think you can get crime stats.

Without offending other posters who may live there is South Knoxville not considered desirable?

Why would anyone be offended if a nearby house is run down?

[DaveinMtAiry]

Well if someone is born and raised in South Knoxville and a few posters come in to say it's a dump and not recommended, well I can see someone being offended and I didn't want to start all that. We obviously need to see for ourselves. Currently we live in a rural area and really like the open spaces but also need to be close to things, especially as we age. A few run down homes doesn't bother me, we have them here too, But an entire area of fridges on beat up front porches and 4 trashed cars in the yard is a different story. As retirees school quality is a non-factor.

Thanks for the help.

[arabus]

Originally Posted by DaveinMtAiry

Well if someone is born and raised in South Knoxville and a few posters come in to say it's a dump and not recommended, well I can see someone being offended and I didn't want to start all that. We obviously need to see for ourselves. Currently we live in a rural area and really like the open spaces but also need to be close to things, especially as we age. A few run down homes doesn't bother me, we have them here too, But an entire area of fridges on beat up front porches and 4 trashed cars in the yard is a different story. As retirees school quality is a non-factor.

Thanks for the help.

As an upcoming retiree, one of the myriad factors I consider is public transportation. Knoxville offers a low cost, door to door transport for disabled seniors. But it is only available inside the city limits.

See: LIFT | Knoxville Area Transit, TN

[hiknapster]

Originally Posted by arabus

As an upcoming retiree, one of the myriad factors I consider is public transportation. Knoxville offers a low cost, door to door transport for disabled seniors. But it is only available inside the city limits.

See: LIFT | Knoxville Area Transit, TN

Actually:

https://www.ethra.org/programs/16/public-transit/

[JMT]

Originally Posted by arabus

As an upcoming retiree, one of the myriad factors I consider is public transportation. Knoxville offers a low cost, door to door transport for disabled seniors. But it is only available inside the city limits.

See: LIFT | Knoxville Area Transit, TN

That service is available everywhere in Tennessee, not just in Knoxville, and it's often cheaper ($1 in Cookeville instead of $3 in Knoxville). It's also not limited to disabled seniors. Every county in Tennessee is covered by a human resource agency such as the one hiknapster cited for Knoxville, and each HRA provides door-to-door transportation to anyone, not just the disabled or seniors.