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Old 11-05-2011, 06:24 PM
 
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Who are bought and paid for by.....?????
If politicians weren't such scum they wouldn't be for sale, would they? Blame the corporations because only crooks run for office?
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Here's a good example....

Who knows why Pfizer (and other drug companies) have commercials on TV? You cannot write a prescription. Are you diagnosing your own ailments, and can somehow convince your doctor to write you up a prescription for your self diagnosed illness? And, even if you do have that particular illness, and need that prescription, chances are your insurance company will only pay for the generic brand of the said medication.


The answer..... So that companies can control what you see on TV. They pay billions of dollars every year for "advertising".... But, they can also threaten to pull that money away from a TV company, if the TV company puts something on their programming that they don't agree with (Bill Mahar being thrown off ABC??).

Corporations control everything about our lives. What we see on TV, and what information we get from the news. How our insurance works. How politicians vote, and what new laws will be made up. How our cars operate. How clean our food and water is....

Don't place blame half way up the ladder (politicians). Start at the bottom, where the problems all stem from. Corporate greed and lust for money.
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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If politicians weren't such scum they wouldn't be for sale, would they? Blame the corporations because only crooks run for office?
I'm honestly at a loss as to what you're defending here?

Our entire treasury department is on the board of directors for Goldman Sachs.....

Please, give me your candidate to vote for that isn't corrupt, won't accept "donations" (lobbying), and will stick up for the working class of America (Which is by far and away the most populous class of Americans).
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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Here's a good example....

Who knows why Pfizer (and other drug companies) have commercials on TV? You cannot write a prescription. Are you diagnosing your own ailments, and can somehow convince your doctor to write you up a prescription for your self diagnosed illness? And, even if you do have that particular illness, and need that prescription, chances are your insurance company will only pay for the generic brand of the said medication.


The answer..... So that companies can control what you see on TV. They pay billions of dollars every year for "advertising".... But, they can also threaten to pull that money away from a TV company, if the TV company puts something on their programming that they don't agree with (Bill Mahar being thrown off ABC??).

Corporations control everything about our lives. What we see on TV, and what information we get from the news. How our insurance works. How politicians vote, and what new laws will be made up. How our cars operate. How clean our food and water is....

Don't place blame half way up the ladder (politicians). Start at the bottom, where the problems all stem from. Corporate greed and lust for money.
One could always move to China.
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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One could always move to China.
Why do that, when its headed our way as we speak...
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:29 PM
 
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I'm sorry, but I won't feel sorry for the fools who leave their accounts in Wells Fargo, B of A, Citi, etc. when the bank runs start. The "for-profit" banks are openly corrupt... they can't even hide it anymore since the evidence is plainly visible now. There's no argument in their favor anymore, not even from the staunch right wingers who have been in bed with them for decades.

Go credit union or gold, or mattress or whatever hard asset you feel comfortable with.... just watch what happens. Bank runs can happen fast and we haven't had a good one in a long time, so people have forgotten what it's like. The FDIC will not be solvent when the "spit" hits the fan and the contagion spreads like wildfire around the globe. Leverage is still out there.

Keep your eye on the Italian 10-year bond yield and watch the rest of Europe closely as well (especially Greece, Portugal, Spain, Ireland). We are NOT immune from what happens there. $700 TRILLION in unregulated, off-balance sheet derivatives are still floating out there, unresolved. Think about how much money that is.

The bill is due.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:40 PM
 
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Re-read my post. I was describing the Willfully Ignorant, not all conservatives.

It's a shame that the bulk of America's willfully ignorant play in deep, deep right field for the Conservative team. But we have our share of dingbats playing in deep, deep left on our team, too.
It's a shame that you just can't help with the labels and digs, and I would strongly disagree with your opinion above which it seems you try to portray as fact. Strange thing is trying to look beyond your constant labeling and L vs R banter I would otherwise agree with many of your premises.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I'm sorry, but I won't feel sorry for the fools who leave their accounts in Wells Fargo, B of A, Citi, etc. when the bank runs start. The "for-profit" banks are openly corrupt... they can't even hide it anymore since the evidence is plainly visible now. There's no argument in their favor anymore, not even from the staunch right wingers who have been in bed with them for decades.

Go credit union or gold, or mattress or whatever hard asset you feel comfortable with.... just watch what happens. Bank runs can happen fast and we haven't had a good one in a long time, so people have forgotten what it's like. The FDIC will not be solvent when the "spit" hits the fan and the contagion spreads like wildfire around the globe. Leverage is still out there.

Keep your eye on the Italian 10-year bond yield and watch the rest of Europe closely as well (especially Greece, Portugal, Spain, Ireland). We are NOT immune from what happens there. $700 TRILLION in unregulated, off-balance sheet derivatives are still floating out there, unresolved. Think about how much money that is.

The bill is due.
+1

I really don't think we have seen the worst of this yet. There have been a lot of temporary fixes, but the real problem still hasn't been dealt with. If Europe collapses (Which is still very possible), then we will shortly follow.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:44 PM
 
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+1

I really don't think we have seen the worst of this yet. There have been a lot of temporary fixes, but the real problem still hasn't been dealt with. If Europe collapses (Which is still very possible), then we will shortly follow.
Europe won't "collapse." Merely the dependence on their governments.

The US has not been shoved down that hole just yet.
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Europe won't "collapse." Merely the dependence on their governments.

The US has not been shoved down that hole just yet.
Please explain.

Europe is in real danger is a meltdown. Any country that is part of the EU is in massive debt (Aside from a very few select countries). When time comes to pay the bills, who's going to pick up the tab, and at what cost? Germany has stated they are willing to foot a good portion of the bill, but at a "price".... a price that not too many seem to be comfortable with.

And, no, we're not down the same hole yet....but we're at the other end of the rope. A lot of US money is tied up in the EU. It goes away, and we do too.
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