[RicKaysen]

Like any good drug dealer the casinos got you hooked by offering freebies or very low cost attractions only to make you pay and pay later.

[Svoboda]

Will be interesting to see what happens now that sports betting is going country wide. That is one monopoly Vegas still had that is now gone.

[Willy702]

Originally Posted by Katie the heartbreaker

I do not think you watched the video, because he meant Las Vegas is being destroyed as the good value tourist town that it used to be. He is correct. It is changing, and not in a good way. Does anyone remember $1 Michelob's at Casino Royal? They have been that way for as long as I can remember. 5 years ago they changed it to $2. Now they are $3. This is just one example of many. From the stats you posted, it looks like tourists are still coming here just as much. They are being nickled and dimed to death so they no longer gamble as much as they used to.

I watched the whole stupid thing and thought to myself what nonsense. I'm sure millions don't like it now and come less or stopped coming. Its not what it was before. But that doesn't mean its been destroyed or even downgraded. Its busier than ever, making more money than ever and its all because it draws different customers with different things than just a generic gaming floor and cheap offers. If it just stuck to the bargain offers and casino focus it would have been decimated, gaming would have gone down 30% or more. Why would people come if they could get a slot machine or table game closer to home?

[Merrily Gather]

Jacob posted a livestream on the grasshopper invasion a few days ago downtown. Looks like they're mostly around the white lights and not in the streets as much nor hanging in the dark under red lights like at evil pie. It goes for 25 minutes as he walks around.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VrYQGm3qaY

[bthp223]

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[BBMW]

If you're saying that California is driving out a large percentage of it's population, and a lot of those are ending up in LV, then I agree.

Originally Posted by bthp223

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[lvmensch]

Be careful with all this. Ex-Californians are the largest population group in Clark County. Far outnumber native born. So be careful of whom is tolerating whom.

Interesting though. It appears virtually all the ex-Californians have taken an oath against the income tax.

[Commander666]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Be careful with all this. Ex-Californians are the largest population group in Clark County. Far outnumber native born. So be careful of whom is tolerating whom.

Interesting though. It appears virtually all the ex-Californians have taken an oath against the income tax.

That post says it all. Exactly why LV has become a cesspool. Yes, you hit the nail on the head.

[Katie the heartbreaker]

Originally Posted by Commander666

That post says it all. Exactly why LV has become a cesspool. Yes, you hit the nail on the head.

I have no problem at all with good decent liberals moving here from California. They are more than welcome, and I tend to get along great with them. The problem is when California lets out tons of prisoners in which they all head here. Those are the people who need to leave and are not welcome.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Be careful with all this. Ex-Californians are the largest population group in Clark County. Far outnumber native born. So be careful of whom is tolerating whom.

Interesting though. It appears virtually all the ex-Californians have taken an oath against the income tax.

Originally Posted by Commander666

That post says it all. Exactly why LV has become a cesspool. Yes, you hit the nail on the head.

You forget that Las Vegas has always been hardscrabble, just like Reno, Atlantic City, NJ and Tunica, MS -- the other American gaming destinations.

The 70s and 80s were rough times in Las Vegas. Lots of mob violence, murders, serial killings, drug addicts, Fremont Street was a nasty, nasty place and a virtual "no go" zone, unless you wanted to contend with pimps, crack heads and dirty needles everywhere.

When Summerlin and Green Valley Ranch were built in the early 90s, everyone got this bucolic, wholesome image of Las Vegas as a Southern California-type suburb stuck in their heads. To those of us old enough to remember the "Real Vegas", it was an interesting time. They marketed to Californians and New Yorkers and that's who came. Then, the plan was to replicate that with places like Aliente, Seven Hills, Providence, Centennial, etc. That effort was met with mixed success due to the crash of 2008.

There's only so many white, well-off Baby Boomers to go around, guys. The wealth isn't as "spread out" as it used to be in previous generations, and that's why you're seeing a different subset of Californians making their way to Las Vegas, namely, those who are drawn by the town's reputation for excess: food, gambling, alcohol, low skilled labor, large tips, sales, cheaper homes, etc.

Talk to a Las Vegas native in their 50s or 60s (if you can find one?) and ask them about the town's deep history going back into the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s. It makes a huge difference. Stephanie (NLVgal) was the closest thing this forum had to someone like that. She would speak honestly and her and I had some interesting conversations off of this website.