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Old 04-01-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Village of Patchogue, NY
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And before you click the link to read the article, guess which SD he attended!?
I was guessing North Shore, probably Nassau... Was I way off!

Makes me think twice about the importance of districts. Are people blowing it completely out of proportion?


NY student accepted at all 8 Ivy League schools - The Washington Post
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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Great for him.

And good for William Floyd!
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:05 PM
 
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And before you click the link to read the article, guess which SD he attended!?
I was guessing North Shore, probably Nassau... Was I way off!

Makes me think twice about the importance of districts. Are people blowing it completely out of proportion?


NY student accepted at all 8 Ivy League schools - The Washington Post
Yes, it's blown out of proportion to some extent, but I do think school district matters for kids closer to the median.

An exceptional kid is going to be exceptional anywhere (and arguably, may be considered more "remarkable" in the college admissions process when coming from a weaker district because the exceptional kid "overcame" the "obstacles" of being from that district).

However, for a kid closer to average, I think school district plays a role because that kid's school experience will be shaped by the norms/standards among peers, and in better districts, peers are more likely to be grade- and school-oriented than at a weaker school. If the norm is that everyone studies and tries to get at least Bs, an average kid will aim for that; if the norm is that no one studies and everyone's fine passing with a 67, a kid may think it's acceptable to aim for that instead. So choosing a school district requires you to consider what type of kid you have - some kids (like the young man featured in the article) are incredibly bright and self-motivated, and don't need peer influence to aspire to that kind of success. School district doesn't matter for those kids. Other kids (probably most other kids) don't have that internal motivation, and need the push that a "better" school district is more equipped to provide.
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:05 PM
 
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I'll be politically incorrect here but I think being an under-represented minority helps out a lot when it comes to Ivies admissions.

The equivalent white or asian kid with same test scores probably would not get accepted to all the ivies.

Nonetheless, outstanding achievement for the kid and kudos to him.
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:10 PM
 
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I'm with 85dumbo, this smells of affirmative action. The kid is probably qualified but others were passed up so he could be accepted.
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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I'm with 85dumbo, this smells of affirmative action. The kid is probably qualified but others were passed up so he could be accepted.
So the kid has to be white for his achievements to be legitimate in your opinion?
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Nassau County, Lawn Giland
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I'm with 85dumbo, this smells of affirmative action. The kid is probably qualified but others were passed up so he could be accepted.
Affirmative action? All 8 institutions felt this young man would be an asset to their campus and passed up other qualified students? Admissions is as much a qualitative process as it is a quantitive one (test scores, coursework). Maybe it wasn't his skin color or last name...maybe applicants of his profile from the Mastic area rare and that's what made him stand out?

Bravo to him!
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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This boy's academics were off the hook! Having had parental involvement/guidence/influence must have made a big difference in his life.

He has such a stellar future -- awesome job!
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Old 04-01-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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I'll be politically incorrect here but I think being an under-represented minority helps out a lot when it comes to Ivies admissions.

The equivalent white or asian kid with same test scores probably would not get accepted to all the ivies.

Nonetheless, outstanding achievement for the kid and kudos to him.
this was true when I was in HS. I personally knew someone who got in who normally wouldn't have. Regardless, great for him tho
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Old 04-01-2014, 02:10 PM
 
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So the kid has to be white for his achievements to be legitimate in your opinion?
I never said he wasn't qualified. I just think "affirmative action" played a role in his acceptance to all the schools.
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