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Old 05-04-2015, 12:30 PM
 
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Hi all,

I've spent half the day on the phone with Town of Oyster Bay for what I thought to be a pretty standard thing, considering how many people have their fences done on the daily.

We spent the past two weeks collecting fencing estimates for the backyard and finally selected a company. They described the process for me of applying for a permit, although they don't require one to start the work.

We purchased our house less than two years ago and we were able to use our seller's property survey at closing.

I called TOB to see how to go about getting the permit - they basically said that just because the fence is pictured on the survey doesn't mean we have a permit for it. So, I don't quite understand - we had a title search done and all CO's were accounted for at the time of our closing. Is she making a big deal about nothing, or do I really have something to worry about? Do I have to wait until I get the permit to allow the fence company to come do the work? FWIW- we're replacing a wood fence with a PVC fence on all three sides of the yard.
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Old 05-04-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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Hi all,

I've spent half the day on the phone with Town of Oyster Bay for what I thought to be a pretty standard thing, considering how many people have their fences done on the daily.

We spent the past two weeks collecting fencing estimates for the backyard and finally selected a company. They described the process for me of applying for a permit, although they don't require one to start the work.

We purchased our house less than two years ago and we were able to use our seller's property survey at closing.

I called TOB to see how to go about getting the permit - they basically said that just because the fence is pictured on the survey doesn't mean we have a permit for it. So, I don't quite understand - we had a title search done and all CO's were accounted for at the time of our closing. Is she making a big deal about nothing, or do I really have something to worry about? Do I have to wait until I get the permit to allow the fence company to come do the work? FWIW- we're replacing a wood fence with a PVC fence on all three sides of the yard.
I had a survey done of my house when I bought it, on the survey is an above ground pool and a fence. Does not mean they have permits, just means they were there when survey was taken.

Also a title search just means all open permits are closed. I think if you take down an old fence you need a permit to put up a new fence.

I dont understand why the town is involved at all. Do you have neighbors who object to fence? When I put a fence, I wrote a letter to all my neighbors telling them I was putting up a fence and described fence and all were ok with it. Are you worried one neighbor will call town?
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Old 05-04-2015, 01:03 PM
 
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Thanks for your reply. No, I'm not worried about neighbors, but I was under the impression that I would eventually need a permit for the fence (as in, when its time to sell). I don't want to create a headache later, so I was trying to do the right thing now, but I was confused by the town's responses to my questions.
Do most people NOT apply for a fence permit?
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Old 05-04-2015, 02:55 PM
 
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Thanks for your reply. No, I'm not worried about neighbors, but I was under the impression that I would eventually need a permit for the fence (as in, when its time to sell). I don't want to create a headache later, so I was trying to do the right thing now, but I was confused by the town's responses to my questions.
Do most people NOT apply for a fence permit?
90% of folks don't get permits to replace an existing fence as is if neighbors are ok with it. Same goes for above ground pools.

If you are putting up a fence or pool and you know you have an issue with neighbors or you need a variance I would do it.

My fence to be honest is 100% to code, I replaced it when I bought house as it was old and did not even know I needed a permit to be honest.But I put it exactly where it was. Plus it looks legal on the website so I could get a permit easy enough
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:35 PM
 
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I think I might need a permit because I'm going from wood to PVC
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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Keep the fence inside your property line and within allowable limits and skip the permits. What it's made out of has nothing to do with anything.

As Sandy said, what's on the survey and what's permitted are two different things. The old owner didn't get a fence permit and now you want to. Guess what else they didn't get a permit for? You'll find out when the building inspector comes to look at your new fence that you just had to have a permit for.
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Old 05-05-2015, 06:54 AM
 
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As long as you stay within the height limitations and do not encroach on your neighbors property you will be fine.
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Old 05-05-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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Can someone clarify for me though- if an inspector were to come and see a PVC fence instead of wood, would he issue a violation? If I don't get a permit am I just delaying the inevitable?
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Old 05-05-2015, 09:07 AM
 
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There might be regs about chain link fences.
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Old 05-05-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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I think I might need a permit because I'm going from wood to PVC
None of use know if
1) you ever had a permit for old fence
2) if you did have a permit did he write down the building material


The building dept is still swamped from Sandy rebuilding I doubt your fence is high on the radar
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