If the Lakers or Dodgers wanted public-funds, taxpayer dollars for a new Venue, Stadium, Arena, would L.A. give in, bend (Los Angeles: tax, vs.)

[WantToHaveALife]

Originally Posted by The Illusive Man

Exactly. I bet you this guy has never had a job in his life and still lives in his parents basement. He doesn't understand the concept of taxes. People need to realize that LA is not like other desperate cities. St.Louis for instance doesn't have anything that makes it stand out. Nobody makes St.Louis a primary destination for any reason, thus, they felt the need to ***** out public funds to lure the Rams. That city is broke, still owes money on that stadium and will be on the hook for renovations or a new stadium.

LA doesn't think like that, never has and never will. Like I said before, it's not wise to leave LA, especially for a smaller market. Both the Rams and the Raiders are at the bottom of the league in just about every financial category, while the Lakers....and NBA team, are more valuable than both of them.

yeah i still live in my parents house, unemployed but desperately want a job though, been almost a year since i've been out of work because of the ******* competition, i don't care if taxes took money out of my paycheck, thats how much i want an NFL team, if there is too many things to do in L.A., then why is L.A. smaller than New York population wise? more people should move to L.A. than New York then

[DynamoLA]

Originally Posted by WantToHaveALife

yeah i still live in my parents house, unemployed but desperately want a job though, been almost a year since i've been out of work because of the ******* competition, i don't care if taxes took money out of my paycheck, thats how much i want an NFL team, if there is too many things to do in L.A., then why is L.A. smaller than New York population wise? more people should move to L.A. than New York then

Objection your honor. Irrelevant.

[The Illusive Man]

Originally Posted by WantToHaveALife

yeah i still live in my parents house, unemployed but desperately want a job though, been almost a year since i've been out of work because of the ******* competition, i don't care if taxes took money out of my paycheck, thats how much i want an NFL team, if there is too many things to do in L.A., then why is L.A. smaller than New York population wise? more people should move to L.A. than New York then

Wow, is this guy for real?

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by DynamoLA

Objection your honor. Irrelevant.

Edit, your honor: Ironic entertainment.

[DynamoLA]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

Edit, your honor: Ironic entertainment.

Sustained. I'll allow...

[WantToHaveALife]

Originally Posted by The Illusive Man

Wow, is this guy for real?

yeah whats wrong with using tax dollars to fund a sports stadium, arena?

[WantToHaveALife]

Originally Posted by The Illusive Man

Exactly. I bet you this guy has never had a job in his life and still lives in his parents basement. He doesn't understand the concept of taxes. People need to realize that LA is not like other desperate cities. St.Louis for instance doesn't have anything that makes it stand out. Nobody makes St.Louis a primary destination for any reason, thus, they felt the need to ***** out public funds to lure the Rams. That city is broke, still owes money on that stadium and will be on the hook for renovations or a new stadium.

LA doesn't think like that, never has and never will. Like I said before, it's not wise to leave LA, especially for a smaller market. Both the Rams and the Raiders are at the bottom of the league in just about every financial category, while the Lakers....and NBA team, are more valuable than both of them.

i understand the concept of taxes, the taxes take some money out of your paycheck for your job, but i'm glad that money is going somewhere useful, to something i want

[Marv101]

The Rams and the Raiders had deteriorated into two of the most incompetently run sports franchise in America when they left in the mid-nineties, and Los Angeles will NEVER support or tolerate incompetent management and/or ownership.

The Lakers have never had incompetent ownership or a front office loaded with morons in the 45+ years I've been following the sport dating back to the opening of the Forum in the late sixties.

The Dodgers always had solid management and ownership until Peter O'Malley decided to sell the team because in his own words, 'I hated dealing with politicians'; given the new ownership and management team, that oproblem has been solved, but the idiotic politicians remain in place.

In either case, neither franchise would need a dime from LA's citizens if they wanted a new facility.

[UB50]

Originally Posted by greggd1

No way. Need to offer higher-end housing and moderate housing in that area to provide closer housing for professionals working in downtown los angeles. Professionals that work in downtown LA need alternatives to condo hi-rise buildings and lofts. Need SFH with green belts, parks, schools, retail etc within an area they will consider living and raising families. I'd even say let it be 100% private schools up there.

There is urban all around that hilltop. Forget about the past. That area needed cleaning up big time. Dodgers did LA a big favor building that staduim.

Biggest darn question on this board: "is it safe" "is it safe" "is it safe" well here you go, its gated, its new, its higher end, its safe.

Hancock Park offers that. SFH with lawns.

[Natural510]

Originally Posted by WantToHaveALife

yeah whats wrong with using tax dollars to fund a sports stadium, arena?

Everything...otherwise, nothing.