Those of you concerned w overdevelopment, etc. . (West Hollywood, San Fernando: renter, lofts)

[SFVNC]

Originally Posted by Astral_Weeks

You are smoking crack. The U.S. Census puts the LA/OC metro area vacancy rate at 3.0 percent. Is the U.S. Census Bureau non-biased enough for you?

Housing Vacancies and Homeownership (CPS/HVS) - Quarterly Vacancy and Homeownership Rates by State and MSA - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau

Originally Posted by Astral_Weeks

You are smoking crack. The U.S. Census puts the LA/OC metro area vacancy rate at 3.0 percent. Is the U.S. Census Bureau non-biased enough for you?

Housing Vacancies and Homeownership (CPS/HVS) - Quarterly Vacancy and Homeownership Rates by State and MSA - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau

I don't do drugs. But for someone so incredibly angry about these statistics you are most likely just another developer with no ability to comprehend reason.

Try searching your data WITHIN LOS ANGELES - which is what we are talking about.
This thread was not referencing STATE stats was it. Those stats have nothing to do with LOS ANGELES

California's Population Is Moving Out, Census Report Shows

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...82914961.html

The Exodus of People Moving Away From California Is Becoming an Avalanche
The Exodus of People Moving Away From California Is Becoming an Avalanche ? Charisma News

How Los Angeles engineered a housing crisis

_ - Salon.com

Los Angeles one of the top area Americans are ditching
http://www.doctorhousingbubble.com/c...ate-patterns/

L.A. as most unaffordable rental market in the nation
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/ucl...in-the-nation

Explaining the Country's Worst Rental Market

| Planetizen: The independent resource for people passionate about planning and related fields

[SFVNC]

Originally Posted by NativeOrange

Don't you think it's odd then that they never flat out admit that this is the reason for being a NIMBY? Clearly they know that greed is taking over their morals and have to resort to things like "this will negatively alter the neighborhoods character", or "they aren't building any affordable units", as if these people would actually welcome the lower class residents with open arms. It's very political and there is always a front that these neighborhood organizations push with an underlying hidden agenda.

I wonder why they don't realize that having property near dense development corridors will only push their home values up in the long term.

What is odd is how uneducated you are. Go learn what the actual definition of your word is.
I would love to hear, from a voice of reason of course, how the words GREED and NIMBY are connected. Did you mean constituents who are fighting to save their home sand families from greedy developers? 3 separate buildings on a friends block that were built by 3 different developers have been "for sale" for 14 months. They all have admitted it was the worst mistake they ever made. They cannot sell the things for a dollar right now and are all vacant.

Ugh. Why are you even in this thread. Another developer trying to make a buck destroying affordable housing.

[Astral_Weeks]

Originally Posted by SFVNC

Here is a good one written by a local attorney who has sued the city on a regular basis for these housing scams, as well as all the city councilmembers.

https://zwartztalk.wordpress.com/201...arcettism-2-0/

You accuse others of having biased sources? Yet you provide a link to the "World Press" via a lawyer who sues the city on a regular basis. Uh yeah, we are all going to believe everything this guy says. You know how to tell when a lawyer is lying...when his lips are moving.

[Yermum]

We got a live one guys!

[SFVNC]

The sources are linked to stats and footnotes, if you made it that far.
And yes. A lawyer who has a history and experience of 40 years with the specific city is indeed a source. View the case files.

Its not there for you to believe or not. Its there for you to read and for you to determine for yourself.

Here is another one for you to slam:
Judge Sides with Mid City Activists, Says LA Planning Commission and City Council Screwed Over Neighborhood Coalition

New LA Homeless Numbers:

http://www.citywatchla.com/index.php...-baked-reforms

Inside the Nasty Showdown Last Night at Hollywood's Historic Villa Carlotta - Curbed LA

[SFVNC]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkyPunks

Zoning hurts neighborhoods and should be (mostly) eliminated. That's what many of us are pushing for.

Spoken like a true developer! "many of "us"

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by SFVNC

Actually, we are aware of the facts, the data and the reality we all have in our neighborhoods.

We have over a 12% vacancy rate. Garcetti is demolishing all of the RENT-CONTROL housing evicting thousands. While this is causing an affordable housing issue there is by no means any type of "crisis."

Los ANgeles has been crying 'housing crisis' since the 1940's. Read all the articles here: savevalleyvillage.com/history
which have no alignment with any population data.

Either way, there is a method to smart planning to accommodate any possible growth. However, what they are doing is not it.

When you say "most residents", this is interesting because the court system has been flooded the last 2 years with more lawsuits filed by "Los Angeles Residents" so much that our City Attorney has subbed them out to outside law firms. The fact that all this new construction sits vacant or ends up coming down when we have a slight wind is far from 'welcome'. But if you represent most Los Angeles residents, I am happy to review such data.


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Indeed -- I too have become wary of the "shortage shouters". It's not too very much different from the "how can we survive without immigrants and guest workers?" tripe from people who want to increase their wealth while simultaneously harming the lives of others and ultimately creating problems that do not need to exist if only more responsible attitudes prevailed. Our policy makers need to be good stewards of our city, and that is something they are not doing.

[SFVNC]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Indeed -- I too have become wary of the "shortage shouters". It's not too very much different from the "how can we survive without immigrants and guest workers?" tripe from people who want to increase their wealth while simultaneously harming the lives of others and ultimately creating problems that do not need to exist if only more responsible attitudes prevailed. Our policy makers need to be good stewards of our city, and that is something they are not doing.

Exactly, which is why they keep getting sued.
Because the City Council and the Planning Department employees are all indemnified, they don't care how many times they get sued.

Which is exactly why there are several groups looking deeper into the laws to find a way to sue them individually; which is where they will feel it. Once they actually feel the repercussions their direction will change. But not a moment sooner than that since they have gotten so used to developer kickbacks and "favors."

Garcetti doesn't have any relations with citizens that are not developers or ones that have some financial interest tangled into his plans.
Look at what he did to the Spaghetti factory! And a Judge gave him a court order! He threw that right out the window!
Which is why the 2017 election will either be the nail in the coffin, or a small shining light.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by SFVNC

What is odd is how uneducated you are. Go learn what the actual definition of your word is.
I would love to hear, from a voice of reason of course, how the words GREED and NIMBY are connected. Did you mean constituents who are fighting to save their home sand families from greedy developers? 3 separate buildings on a friends block that were built by 3 different developers have been "for sale" for 14 months. They all have admitted it was the worst mistake they ever made. They cannot sell the things for a dollar right now and are all vacant.

Ugh. Why are you even in this thread. Another developer trying to make a buck destroying affordable housing.

Buildings of condos or town homes ?
As long as they are priced right it doesn't make sense they would sit for 14 months
Where are they ?
Had these people developed anything else before ?
How could they build and not sell into a strong market ?
During the housing crash i could see something like this but not now

If they want to sell for a dollar I'll buy .
Are they on a toxic dump or something

[SFVNC]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Buildings of condos or town homes ?
As long as they are priced right it doesn't make sense they would sit for 14 months
Where are they ?
Had these people developed anything else before ?
How could they build and not sell into a strong market ?
During the housing crash i could see something like this but not now

If they want to sell for a dollar I'll buy .
Are they on a toxic dump or something

Nothing in the city makes sense right now. They sit because Planning is making poor choices. You don't build $850,000+ town homes or condos in a rent-control dominated neighborhood. When history and statistics have proven a consistent demographic area it is simply poor planning and poor choices by developers who have no idea what they are doing and do not care.

They look terrible and are not compatible in any way shape or form to the block's 1930's - 1960's character.
It's common sense. But the city doesn't use common sense. Nor do they plan cumulatively. Everything is done on a case by case basis which results in this piecemealizaiton patchwork.

The area in the example I gave is in the North Hollywood, Valley Village area. Not quite considered the NoHo arts district, a little more west.

This is just one example though..of many.