As rents and home prices skyrocket in Los Angeles county, San Bernardino county becomes red hot (Pasadena: credit, hotel)

[69Charger]

"As we see a greater number of people leaving the coastal counties than in years past, migration patterns may turn positive once again, due in part to better affordability in San Bernardino County compared to coastal markets"

What Makes the San Bernardino County Housing Market Hot | GlobeSt.com

I really feel for people. I've lived all over the L.A. metro area, and this is definitely becoming a trend. Traffic heading east has picked up post recession as well.

The only real question is, how far east does someone go? For all intents and purposes, I consider Glendora and Covina the first "normal" suburbs. Your typical housing stock that is not too centered on one ethnicity or culture, and where the typical lifestyle usually revolves around going to a mall or Islands on the weekend. But these are not exactly cheap either, in the $500+k zone.

Now keep going a bit, go over the big hill, and you end up in the $400k zone for typical housing stock, with the exception of areas in Claremont, Upland, and Rancho. Go past the 15 and you're in the $300k zone, but I wouldn't go too far past the 15. Fontana is pretty decent but that's the end of the line. After that is ghetto until you pass San Bernardino. But that's a LONG drive from L.A., although I know people that do it. Areas out there get you a new home in the $200k zone.

[ryanms3030]

I work with multiple people that commute 2 hours each way on average.

[JustMike77]

Might as well move to Vegas. At least there you get free drinks.

[NJ Brazen_3133]

The price will always become lesser and lesser further you are from the area of highest demand.

Barstow, or Twenty Nine palms, I am sure still has affordable living does Ridgecrest in Kern.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by JustMike77

Might as well move to Vegas. At least there you get free drinks.

Well considering that LA County once bordered Nevada up to Stateline, maybe we can consider Vegas to be the IE.

They are trying to figure out the IE's boundaries anyway (in the thread below).

https://www.city-data.com/forum/san-b...ink-about.html

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by JustMike77

Might as well move to Vegas. At least there you get free drinks.

There are other considerations re Vegas. The higher one's income and net worth, the more one might care about being a resident of Nevada. How many SFRs are currently on the market in the IE at a price point of $5,000,000 or above? In Las Vegas and Henderson alone, there are currently over 50.

[Finper]

The term is super commuters. If they work 3 or 4 days here a week they live in Az or Nv and live in a room or hotel those days here and have a house out of state they go back to. Makes sense to me

[jm1982]

Interesting article , this is similar to what happened the land bubble where many people got priced out of the la metro area and started moving more inland and then those areas heated up .

This part of the article is interesting
"The suburbs are going to experience the greatest share of growth in the next decade, but we see a trend that we call “surban” living continuing to emerge. Essentially, it is bringing the best elements of urban living to traditionally suburban locations, including small downtowns, with housing that is walkable to retail, restaurants and entertainment and places where you might not need a car during the week—but you might like to have one for the weekends."

Sounds like the creation of mini "Groves" or "Americanas"

[Chicano3000X]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Interesting article , this is similar to what happened the land bubble where many people got priced out of the la metro area and started moving more inland and then those areas heated up .

This part of the article is interesting
"The suburbs are going to experience the greatest share of growth in the next decade, but we see a trend that we call “surban” living continuing to emerge. Essentially, it is bringing the best elements of urban living to traditionally suburban locations, including small downtowns, with housing that is walkable to retail, restaurants and entertainment and places where you might not need a car during the week—but you might like to have one for the weekends."

Sounds like the creation of mini "Groves" or "Americanas"

That does sound interesting. Our biggest mistake with the suburbs was making them sterile and boring. And forcing people to have to drive to a big box store island.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by Chicano3000X

That does sound interesting. Our biggest mistake with the suburbs was making them sterile and boring. And forcing people to have to drive to a big box store island.

Looks like Surban is a new buzzword. It's interesting in the link below they list "surban" areas and one example is old town Pasadena .

This makes sense that there would be demand for this type of development in areas like San Bernadino where many people might of moved to from the L.A metro area .



"Mature suburban areas took note of urban revitalization. City leaders redeveloped their downtowns or zoned an area for a vibrant mix of retail, housing, and sometimes jobs. Urban planners call these areas "mixed use," but surban better describes the mix of urban and suburban living. We trademarked the term, but everyone has permission to use the word surban without the trademark. We just want credit for coining the phrase."


https://www.bigshiftsahead.com/surban/#

This link is interesting too
"Surban developments will replace shopping centers. More retail stores will be transformed into places that sell experiences rather than goods, and more development will combine housing and retail to satisfy consumer demand for places that offer convenient, car-free shopping. An 86 percent surge in household formations in the coming decade will drive retail activity—particularly purchases by renters, who will represent 58 percent of the net new households."

Where People Will Want to Be: