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Originally Posted by jim12
i want to join the group that sees more combat. I want to save lives and stop terrorists. Which has the better training? Also is the IDF infantry more trained, equal, or less trained than the USMC infantry? I wanted to go for the USMC initially, but was rejected cause i have no high school diploma. Is the IDF training similar to the USMC? Im thinking bout joining the idf mahal program and learning hebrew with a free army ulpan(hebrew class). Any advice i'd really appreciate. Thanks!
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My strong advice: read the relevant forum boards (
a French Foreign Legion Forum : cervens.net for the FFL and
MAHAL-IDF-Volunteers.org :: Index for the IDF) to formulate your decision. I was unaware of the Mahal program's specifics, but I knew the IDF occasionally recruited outside the country. Of note: just an observation, but every active poster on the FFL board seems to be fairly bitter and crusty, in some cases to the point I wonder if they are caricatures. I can't believe that's coincidence, something in that environment probably turned them that way.
I'm not sure you're actually joining for the right reasons. "I want to see the group that sees more combat" might become a relatively meaningless statement if you end up as a cook in Aubagne or a supply guy in Petach Tikva. You'll see combat if you're both in the right unit, and at the right time. Again, the FFL board stresses that: not every Legionnaire ends up in a combat unit or position. Someone has to be the plumber or truck driver.
The "better" training is a matter of preference. They both have the exact kind of training they need
for their individual services needs, and you probably can't meaningfully compare them. The FFL has the better training for their needs, the IDF for their needs.
I suspect, but can't prove, FFL is harder to get into. That doesn't make it better, it just means there are far more desperate, physically fit and motivated third-worlders who have made their way to France and view it as a path to citizenship. The limitation to Jews makes the IDF Mahal program harder to even begin joining, and my bet is once you started you'd be able to join, train, and complete your service.
You'd have the opportunity to learn either Hebrew or French by full immersion if you succeed in getting in. Question: Do you ever see yourself living in a Francophone country in the future? Or Israel? Are you ever looking at changing your citizenship if the service works out? That should help guide your decision. Israel is obviously more equipped and has the infrastructure ready to absorb immigrants, as they do it all the time; you could do it in France, but not as easily.