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Old 02-10-2019, 02:02 PM
 
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Pretty awesome. Ranger School is supposed to be one of the hardest schools in the entire military, and from watching videos of it and also reading stories, I don't doubt it at all.

By the way, the oldest graduate of Ranger School was a 45 year old Command Sgt. Major who passed in 2017. There have also been multiple graduates of Ranger School in their 40's including a 44 year old British NCO.

https://www.military.com/video/speci...nger-school-42
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Pretty awesome. Ranger School is supposed to be one of the hardest schools in the entire military, and from watching videos of it and also reading stories, I don't doubt it at all.

By the way, the oldest graduate of Ranger School was a 45 year old Command Sgt. Major who passed in 2017. There have also been multiple graduates of Ranger School in their 40's including a 44 year old British NCO.

https://www.military.com/video/speci...nger-school-42
Ranger School is a tough school. No I did not attend, but was fortunate to have met many Rangers over the years.

I still communicate with a former Commander from the 80's, who is a Ranger ...
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:29 PM
 
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Can't be that hard if people in their mid 40's can pass.
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:05 AM
 
Location: South of Cakalaki
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Can't be that hard if people in their mid 40's can pass.
Grapes, sour, 1 each.
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Old 02-11-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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Can't be that hard if people in their mid 40's can pass.
Generally correct. The "sour grapes" remark? Ha ha. Funny. Very Expected. I would add however that you'd need to be a pretty stout 40+ yr old but still, just as the typical 20 yr old wouldn't be able to just show up and pass it.
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Old 02-11-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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It does seem like the Army is spending money to give old veteran soldiers a vanity tab. Exactly what would an Infantry Command Sergeant Major or a Special Forces Master Sergeant learn about leadership at Ranger School? And is it a good use of the tax payers dollars to send them instead of junior leaders near the beginning of their career?
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Grapes, sour, 1 each.
Sour grapes? More like clueless.

Very few 30- or 40-somethings will succeed in Ranger School. But very few 20-somethings graduate too. The pass rate varies from 40-60% or so.
Marines can flunk out. SEALS can flunk out. SF soldiers can fail the course.

BTW, journalist Robin Moore went through SF training (NOT Ranger school, but one year+ of tough work nonetheless) in the '60s, when he was in his mid-30s, in order to be given access so as to write about SF from the inside.

He wrote The Green Berets and wrote The Ballad of the Green Berets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Moore

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It does seem like the Army is spending money to give old veteran soldiers a vanity tab. Exactly what would an Infantry Command Sergeant Major or a Special Forces Master Sergeant learn about leadership at Ranger School? And is it a good use of the tax payers dollars to send them instead of junior leaders near the beginning of their career?
Indeed. They likely gained entry due to political influence. Money spent on Ranger training would be better spent on someone earlier in their career, say at the five to 15 year point.

War stories to tell at the bar, for the senior-senior guys who went through. Not denigrating their gumption in making it through one tough school.
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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The U.S. Army
Published on Feb 1, 2019
Video by Spc. Austin Pope

Master Sgt. Jole Alvarez, an Advanced Skills Instructor at 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne) recently graduated Ranger School at Fort Benning ,Ga., at the age of 42.



Video located at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iIKGtnhR30
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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US and UK Forces enjoy a very close working relationship, and there are a lot of exchange programs.

British Royal Marine first to embed with US Marines in new program - Stars and Stripes

Vikings return to Norway as Royal Marines train Americans - Royal Navy

The US Marines has a laison officer with the Royal Marines and vice versa, and the US Marines come over to train with the Royal Marines, indeed they both recently trained together in arctic conditions in Norway. Whilst there is also an Airborne Brotherhood shared between US Airborne Forces and the British Parachute Regiment.

Paras joint exercise with 82nd Airborne | The British Army

The UK and US Special Forces (including the Rangers) also work closely together, as do other branches of the US Armed Forces.

US And UK Forces Are Teaming Up At Fort Bragg For A Radical New Warfighting Exercise

The USAF is stepping up training with the RAF, with two F-35 Squadrons to be based at Lakenheath, which will work very closely with the RAF F-35's at nearby Marham.

Major investment to boost UK fast jet home in East of England - GOV.UK

We also work closely together in terms intelligence and support functions.

UKUSA Agreement - Wikipedia

Five Eyes - Wikipedia


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Old 02-12-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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Can't be that hard if people in their mid 40's can pass.
Hahahahahahahaha!!!
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