Why does this state always vote Republican in national elections? (credit, living in)

[bigman123]

Originally Posted by Listener2307

It's a dichotomy. The world is full of them, and there is almost no party which fits every member completely.

Here's an example you may appreciate:
Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Venezuela. Angola, Benin, Central African Rep.Chad, Congo, Dem. Rep. of Congo, Gabon, Guinea- Bissau, Kenya, Lesotho, Madagascar, Mali, Mauretania, Mauritius, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Somalia, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda. Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Oman, Sudan (r), Syria, United Arab Emirates, Yemen Ireland, Malta, Vatican City and a few others....

Know what that list of countries is? Those are the countries where abortion is absolutely prohibited except to save the life of the mother. So the question to a Democrat who is so concerned for the rights of women is: How can you possibly be in favor of foreign aid for a country which denies such a basic right as the right to choose?
So it kinda goes both ways. Assuming you are a Democrat, you don't get everything you want, just like I don't get everything I want as a Republican. But it's still our party of choice, and we will both do what we can to change our party of choice.

NIce try, but I have to disagree with your comparison.

Liberals argue women have the right to choose. That argument is primarilly based on their interpetation of the US Constitution, which only applies to the US. Conservatives base their argument on more of a Biblical/Religious pirinciple. My point is that libs feel abortion legal. Conservatives think abortions are prohibited not only by the law, but by God.

[p-squared]

Originally Posted by bigman123

Actually, I think you will find that Dems usually, if not always, attempt to tie human rights language to aid packages.

Also, can you please name a country we give aid to, where the state punishes homosexuality with death.

Yemen and Mauritania come to mind.

[bigman123]

Originally Posted by p-squared

Yemen and Mauritania come to mind.

Thanks for the info. But as I said earlier, Dems usually try to tie human rights to aid packages.

For example:

Barack Obama has ordered all US officials working overseas to use aid funds to “promote and protect” gay rights, prompting sharp criticism from Rick Perry, the Republican presidential hopeful.

[Listener2307]

Originally Posted by bigman123

NIce try, but I have to disagree with your comparison.

Liberals argue women have the right to choose. That argument is primarilly based on their interpetation of the US Constitution, which only applies to the US. Conservatives base their argument on more of a Biblical/Religious pirinciple. My point is that libs feel abortion legal. Conservatives think abortions are prohibited not only by the law, but by God.

There ya go again
I'm a conservative who would never vote for a liberal and I think no such thing. I think women have the right to choose. Sank your boat.

But back to the whole point and question of the thread, which is "why do voters in Mississippi support Republicans?"
I think the answer lies in the fact that Southern voters in general, and Mississippians in particular are about as independent minded as Americans get. It simply isn't possible to walk into a group of people in this state and predict their feelings on one of the more pressing issues. We vote for Republican Presidents, and then voted against the personhood amendment.

Go figure.

[bigman123]

Originally Posted by Listener2307

There ya go again
I'm a conservative who would never vote for a liberal and I think no such thing. I think women have the right to choose. Sank your boat.

But back to the whole point and question of the thread, which is "why do voters in Mississippi support Republicans?"
I think the answer lies in the fact that Southern voters in general, and Mississippians in particular are about as independent minded as Americans get. It simply isn't possible to walk into a group of people in this state and predict their feelings on one of the more pressing issues. We vote for Republican Presidents, and then voted against the personhood amendment.

Go figure.

Nah... you didnt sink my boat, as I never said all Republicans or all Conservatives think that way. But Im pretty sure all your candidates for POTUS did state Biblical/religious views, as their stance on the abortion issue, and as you said, even you voted for them.

Mississippians independent minded, yes. But the facts say something different. This state is 3rd on the list of states who receive the most federal dollars. So just how independent are we? How hard can it be to balance a budget and keep state taxes low, when you have the ability to be one of the top recipients of federal money.

[Listener2307]

Originally Posted by bigman123

............ This state is 3rd on the list of states who receive the most federal dollars. So just how independent are we? How hard can it be to balance a budget and keep state taxes low, when you have the ability to be one of the top recipients of federal money.

Nah. Your boat's getting a lot of holes.

Top 5 are Alaska, VA, MD, HI and NM.
States That Get The Most Federal Money - 24/7 Wall St.

Anyway, the question is: why do we vote Republican? I still maintain that the reason is because we know better than to vote Democratic.
I'm done.

[bigman123]

The list I saw had MS 3rd, in regards to which states receive the most vs what they put in. Most Red States Take More Money From Washington Than They Put In | Mother Jones

I too would like to understand why MS votes for Republican. The numbers seem to indicate MS is not as independent as some would like to think. My guess, as to why this is a red state, is because much of the Evangelical population comes from MS and the south in general. But that whole abortion thing kinda blows some of their reasoning out of the water.Then you have fiscal Conservatives in the state. But how hard is it to be fiscaly conservative with your state's budget, when you're 3rd in line at the federal troth. Not too hard, one would think.

Todays conservative movement is based on alot mis-information, IMO. They say they want to return to a capitalist economy. But this country has never had a Capitalist economy. This country has always had a MIXED economy. I ask conservatives to simply point to a period in time and/or a country that has had a working, true free market/captialist economy, and they can never do it.

Then, you have the conservative's hatred of Obamacare. They constantly quote polls that say the majority of Americans don't like Obamacare. But they leave out the fact that, when you look into the poll they are quoting, more people dont like it because they feel it doesn't go 'left' enough.

IMO, Reagancare is the main reason we needed Obamacare. It was Reagan who signed EMTALA. EMTALA mandated that virtually every hospital in the country, must treat anyone who needs treatment, regardless of their ability or willingness to pay their bill. Imagine Obama saying to all burger joints that they must feed anyone who comes into their place of business hungry, regardless of their ability or willingness to pay. But for some strange reason, Reagan creating an UNFUNDED mandate, forcing private businesses to give their services away free, is OK. But Obama creating a way to actually FUND the Reagan mandate is socialism. Today's conservatism is really confusing and really doesnt seem a good fit for the realities of MS.

[stlouisan]

Why does Mississippi always vote Republican in national elections? Look back at its history and it is fairly easy to explain why. As the most stereotypically Southern state, Mississippi's voting anything besides Republican would send shockwaves throughout the country.

[CountryFisher]

According to 2012 exit polls, close to 90% of white Mississippians voted for Romney and around 95% of Mississippian blacks voted for Obama. Most people in Mississippi are white and almost all of them vote Republican so therefore, you have your answer. This was also the case in 2008.

However, prior to 1964 the state was mostly Democrat as was most of the South. The NE was mostly Republican though.

[stlouisan]

Originally Posted by CountryFisher

According to 2012 exit polls, close to 90% of white Mississippians voted for Romney and around 95% of Mississippian blacks voted for Obama. Most people in Mississippi are white and almost all of them vote Republican so therefore, you have your answer. This was also the case in 2008.

However, prior to 1964 the state was mostly Democrat as was most of the South. The NE was mostly Republican though.

Prior to 1964, being Democrat essentially meant the same thing as being a Republican today, and vice-versa.