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I will be curious to see how they handle the next book. I read DUNE MESSIAH ages ago and found it intensely boring.
Never read them, but I hear that book is all palace intrigue and no action. Hopefully they've plotted things out such that it will make an interesting movie.
As for Dune 2, we loved it, and managed to sit through the entire thing without getting up. It also helped that we watched the first Dune on 4k disk two weekends ago so everything was very fresh.
We pretty much NEVER go to the cinema anymore because it's hard not to feel ripped of by the quality of movies these days, but this one was well worth the $45 we dropped on tickets and treats. For reference, the last movie we saw in a theater was the Toho Godzilla last year.
Saw it for the second time today, and liked it even better the second time than the first time. To me, it’s primary problem is that it is a bit rushed, but given that it would take an entire miniseries to do the novel justice, that isn’t completely avoidable.
Does anyone else think the new worms look ridiculous going full speed with their mouths open? How'd they not choke like that? I still think Lynch's version has the best worm.
Does anyone else think the new worms look ridiculous going full speed with their mouths open? How'd they not choke like that? I still think Lynch's version has the best worm.
In the scene where Paul and Jessica first encounter a worm, we get a look down the worm's threat. It has 3 or 4 plates back there that it grinds together to make noise, and which close off the back of its throat. So I am not as bothered by the worms moving with their mouths open as you are. (Lynch's worms are cool, though!)
One thing omitted from the movies (probably for reasons of time) which I miss is an explanation of how the sandworms, the spice, and the water on Arrakis are interrelated.
One thing omitted from the movies (probably for reasons of time) which I miss is an explanation of how the sandworms, the spice, and the water on Arrakis are interrelated.
I'm not sure it was omitted, but I can't recall it being mentioned. I think I'd have noticed it.
In the scene where Paul and Jessica first encounter a worm, we get a look down the worm's threat. It has 3 or 4 plates back there that it grinds together to make noise, and which close off the back of its throat. So I am not as bothered by the worms moving with their mouths open as you are. (Lynch's worms are cool, though!)
This. There are a number of earthly burrowing or swimming creatures that have structures in their throat or back of the mouth (not very noticeable from the front) that prevent them from swallowing or choking on dirt or water. Not too much of a stretch that Arrakis' worms have them as well. My main objection to how the new release's worms are portrayed is how effortlessly they seem to move through sand and the way their approach is presented. Can't suspend disbelief and it destroys the concept of how massive they're supposed to be. Maybe it's just biologist brain speaking.
This. There are a number of earthly burrowing or swimming creatures that have structures in their throat or back of the mouth (not very noticeable from the front) that prevent them from swallowing or choking on dirt or water. Not too much of a stretch that Arrakis' worms have them as well. My main objection to how the new release's worms are portrayed is how effortlessly they seem to move through sand and the way their approach is presented. Can't suspend disbelief and it destroys the concept of how massive they're supposed to be. Maybe it's just biologist brain speaking.
Ok fine so they won't choke with their mouth wide open, but don't tell me that leaving your mouth open is the most aerodynamically efficient way to travel through a high-friction medium. Wouldn't it be a better shot to have them open their mouth at the last moment to swallow some unfortunate Sardaukar?
Ok fine so they won't choke with their mouth wide open, but don't tell me that leaving your mouth open is the most aerodynamically efficient way to travel through a high-friction medium. Wouldn't it be a better shot to have them open their mouth at the last moment to swallow some unfortunate Sardaukar?
Certainly, but don't forget no one gets to see whether a worm's mouth is closed while they're submerged. We only see it when they're threatening, attacking or just about to swallow something on the surface! They may well keep their mouths shut the majority of the time.
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I'm not sure it was omitted, but I can't recall it being mentioned. I think I'd have noticed it.
You don't recall it being mentioned because it wasn't, which is a pity. Not essential to the immediate story, but knowing how the sandworms are tied to the spice does make the ecology of Arrakis seem more believable.
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This. There are a number of earthly burrowing or swimming creatures that have structures in their throat or back of the mouth (not very noticeable from the front) that prevent them from swallowing or choking on dirt or water. Not too much of a stretch that Arrakis' worms have them as well.
OT, but I read the other day that Villeneuve's worm design was partially inspired by the adaptations that filter-feeding organisms here on Earth (especially the baleen whales) have evolved. The "teeth" are primarily strainers, not cutting/stabbing weapons.
You don't recall it being mentioned because it wasn't, which is a pity. Not essential to the immediate story, but knowing how the sandworms are tied to the spice does make the ecology of Arrakis seem more believable.
I don't recall that they even identified why spice is essential to the rest of the galaxy.
As for the worms: They're sand ramjets, of course.
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