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Nowhere close to punk rock or pop punk. Examples below for your
Can you elaborate on that ?
All I'm getting is if it guy not girl and aggressive ,mean and rough it is punk ?
I thought Pop music would include bands/singers like Lady GaGa, Britney, Madonna, Spice Girls.
POP ROCK is mix of pop and rock and does not have fast tempo and does not have a lot of chord changes it is melodic and does not have heavily distorted guitars and hard drums and is not loud .It is softer on the ear and not fast tempo.
The song is too clean to be called punk. The production is over the top. The girls are trying hard to disguise it with the dress. Drums are too generic.
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All I'm getting is if it guy not girl and aggressive ,mean and rough it is punk ?
Chicks can punk it out too. Tonight Alive, for instance, plays a bunch of songs that would classify as pop-punk.
Punk doesn't have to be mean. Rough (in the sound, not necessarily the screaming lyrics that are found in Hardcore Punk) though is a trait. The rawness is what started the genre.
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POP ROCK is mix of pop and rock and does not have fast tempo and does not have a lot of chord changes it is melodic and does not have heavily distorted guitars and hard drums and is not loud .It is softer on the ear and not fast tempo.
Pop/Rock stands for popular rock. The song has catchy lyrics in a pop style. Musically it is plain old rock. Mix the two and walla why it is Pop/Rock. Any more example, take Avril Lavigne. Pop/Rock as they come. She has some songs that have a little distortion and uptempo drum beats and it still sounds pop/rock. Pop/Rock is more than just the handful of soft rock acts (i.e. Train, the Fray, OneRepublic, etc).
Punk doesn't have to be mean. Rough (in the sound, not necessarily the screaming lyrics that are found in Hardcore Punk) though is a trait. The rawness is what started the genre.
I thought Pop Punk often has a fast tempo, heavy drums and distorted guitars and a lot of chord changes and bit more melodic and catchy ,loud, uptempo and some what melodic
Punk rock is same has pop punk but not catchy and not melodic.
And I think you right that the punk rock may be not like pop rock but punk rock uses stripped-down instrumentation and the music is not clean and not catchy or melodic.
I thought Pop Punk often has a fast tempo, heavy drums and distorted guitars and a lot of chord changes and bit more melodic and catchy ,loud, uptempo and some what melodic
Punk rock is same has pop punk but not catchy and not melodic.
And I think you right that the punk rock may be not like pop rock but punk rock uses stripped-down instrumentation and the music is not clean and not catchy or melodic.
That might be where you are tripping up. Punk genres as a whole I wouldn't say are melodic.
When I said raw, I mean non-conforming, not over produced, not perfect pitch vocals, etc.
As for Pop Punk, it is punk just catchy with pop lyrics. Again, just compare some of the samples and notice the differences. In most of the examples, you will notice drum rolls between transitions.
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That might be where you are tripping up. Punk genres as a whole I wouldn't say are melodic.
When I said raw, I mean non-conforming, not over produced, not perfect pitch vocals, etc.
As for Pop Punk, it is punk just catchy with pop lyrics. Again, just compare some of the samples and notice the differences. In most of the examples, you will notice drum rolls between transitions.
I don't know about you but most of the punk I hear are not easy on the ears and are more on the rough side!!
Any of the pop rock I have listen to well sounds like soft rock with catchy and pop lyrics normly love or relationships.
Both pop punk and rock pop are radio friendly where hard rock and rock and roll is too hard.And punk is very hard.
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