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Old 03-19-2008, 01:38 PM
 
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I agree with this when it comes to current hip-hop. And back in the day, NWA were as underground as it got.
But, to be fair, I have never even heard of the 2 acts you mentioned.
Anyway, I'm not really into gangsta rap. The NWA and Ice Cube albums I mentioned are important to me 'cuz they are rap classics - they just happen to be "gangsta".
N.W.A was never considered "underground".

And skye1974, a mod actually went in one of my topics and de-railed it, yet nothing was done about that post and the thread just got locked.
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Old 03-19-2008, 02:02 PM
 
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N.W.A was never considered "underground".
Really? Never? Well I don't claim to be an expert on gangsta rap. In the suburbs where I lived in the late 80s, NWA seemed pretty underground - maybe the fact that I even heard them is proof that it never was, though.
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Old 03-19-2008, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Popeyes
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N.W.A was never considered "underground".

And skye1974, a mod actually went in one of my topics and de-railed it, yet nothing was done about that post and the thread just got locked.
You started the lil wayne thread right?
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Old 03-19-2008, 02:51 PM
 
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Really? Never? Well I don't claim to be an expert on gangsta rap. In the suburbs where I lived in the late 80s, NWA seemed pretty underground - maybe the fact that I even heard them is proof that it never was, though.
They were breaking sales records for the genre in that time period, so I wouldn't consider that underground


DJ KJ & MC Kooley C came out around the same time period (and they're from my hometown of West Palm Beach, FL to boot).... how many people can say they've heard of them? Now that's underground ****.


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You started the lil wayne thread right?
Yeah, that was me.
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:08 PM
 
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They were breaking sales records for the genre in that time period, so I wouldn't consider that underground
True. But what about before the wave of success?
Another example: I consider Wu-Tang to be underground before they became a hit among all US high school students in the early/mid 1990s.
Some huge success stories came out of the underground even if they didn't stay there.
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Sheffield, England
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I love 'Straight Outta Compton' by NWA and I'm not much of a rap fan. I'm also the proud owner of Eazy-E's debut album 'Eazy-Duz-It' as well.
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Old 03-19-2008, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Popeyes
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I didn't like Eazy-E when he was in N.W.A I dont know why he was just garbage to me when he was with them.

I liked him better when he was solo
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Old 03-19-2008, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back by Public Enemy
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Old 03-19-2008, 05:31 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Here check this out:
HA! Very nicely done. I figured this thread would get flamed eventually. I just had a less pc way of putting it than City-Data does.

I'm surprised anybody outside of the Bay area has heard of Bay Area Street Music. My nephew and I met these guys when we were out there and bought a demo CD for 5 bucks. It was worth it to us.

I'm not all into Techn9ne and everything, but my nephew is and he explained the difference between underground and other stuff. Those guys do have some talent though. I hear they are rather controversial in the KC area and probably not the best role models. Surprise surprise!
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Old 03-19-2008, 06:49 PM
 
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True. But what about before the wave of success?
Another example: I consider Wu-Tang to be underground before they became a hit among all US high school students in the early/mid 1990s.
Some huge success stories came out of the underground even if they didn't stay there.

Everyone's gotta start somewhere. You're right, not everyone is well-known at first, but by the time N.W.A. hit middle America I'd say their underground status was over.


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It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back by Public Enemy
This is not gangsta rap. Top-notch album, but far from the subject we are discussing.
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